Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hey, I'm Dom and welcome to this episode of the Dom Harvey Podcast. Coming up, a New Zealand private investigator, Kalia McFarland.
But we don't say, you've been served. Why not? There's still a professional element to it.
You don't want to be sassy about it? No. No, okay.
And we've had people throw, I've had some guys that have had the documents thrown at their cars. I've had them try and shove them through a window back at them. We don't want this.
So do you have to serve them and then like briskly sort of walk away?
Yeah.
It depends on what the situation is.
Carly McFarland is the guest on this episode. She's a private investigator and the founder of Serpenti Investigations. Serpenti, by the way, means snake. Look, if you've watched a lot of TV shows and movies like me and you thought private investigators means trench coats, binoculars, and staking out cheaters with boxes of donuts, well, you're not alone.
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Chapter 2: What does a private investigator actually do?
And do a lot of infidelity investigations. What I actually do is a lot of investigations. So fraud investigations, personal investigations. I'll help individuals with difficult problems that they might have. Workplace investigations. Skip tracing. That's a huge passion of mine.
What's that?
Skip tracing is locating people for lots of different reasons. be it finance, be it families, be it estates, different reasons that people would need to find somebody, and document serving. So there's lots of things that we do. But yeah, lots of people think that we sit out there with our sunglasses and binoculars and watch people.
That's me. Have I watched too much TV? Yeah. Because you turned up with a box of Dunkin' Donuts today, which was very, very kind of you. That was just a joke I made when we were messaging backwards and forwards because, yeah, I don't know. I've probably watched too many episodes of Law and Order or something.
It is a stigma that is out there. Yeah, there is a huge stigma out there that, yeah, you're sitting there in a car with two of you with your binoculars watching, just eating coffee and – donuts and coffee.
Yeah. I do have a card here specifically about the infidelity stuff that you're talking about. Does that make up any part of your job?
I can do it. I don't enjoy doing it. It's not something that I like doing. And when I have had it come through, I've spoken to the client –
it's dependent on what the circumstances are and quite often if it's a female that I've spoken to it's your gut that talks and if you have that already in your relationship are you going to waste your money on me that's probably not a good thing for other investigators because I know other investigators that is their bread and butter that's what they do but for me personally it's not yeah
Okay, we'll get to that later, because obviously you've done it to realise that it's not for you. Is part of it not being for you because you just hate going back with the conclusive evidence?
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Chapter 3: How did Kallia McFarland transition from the Air Force to being a PI?
So I've done that. I've got a couple that are on the go at the moment. Last week I was skip tracing somebody to find a family member for an estate. So yeah, it's very varied.
So can most of your job just be done by sitting in front of a computer?
I can do it, but quite often I'll go out as well to interview people, to do scene examinations, to talk to other people, to gather all the evidence before I write my report.
What's the question you get asked most when you tell people what you do? Say you're at a barbecue or a function. Is it infidelity again? It is. It is.
Chapter 4: What personal challenges has Kallia faced in her journey?
A lot of it is infidelity. Or it'll be, oh my gosh, I've never met a private investigator in my life. That's my dream job. That's the statements that I get.
Because there is an intrigue about it or a curiosity, isn't there?
Yeah, there is. And it's a very hard... Industry to get into.
Yeah. Okay, what is the process for qualifying or registering?
So there's no certificate any longer or any degree any longer and you're registered under the PSPLA and quite often you have to be taught by somebody who is an investigator already or ex-police or something like that to then come in. So you have to prove to the ministry that you have relative... education to be able to go into it.
Because a lot of ex-cops end up doing it, don't they? Yeah. What percentage of your job would you describe as exciting? You talked before about invoicing and stuff, which, yeah, I mean, every job, I suppose, has a level of excitement and a level of boredom.
90% of my job.
Exciting.
Yeah, I love, I do enjoy my job. It's why I get out of bed. It's why I do it.
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Chapter 5: What are the common misconceptions about private investigators?
And you're 100% correct. As soon as you get married, it's the first thing people ask. And then I've found out that when you've had one baby, the next thing they ask is, oh, when are you having another one? Are you having any more? Yeah, it's really invasive. No, it's tough though when...
I don't know if this is the same for you, but you have this vision of how you imagine the second half of your life looking. And for me it included kids and then maybe eventually grandkids. And then suddenly it's not there anymore. You have to think, oh, okay. This isn't how I imagined, but let's make the best of it.
Yeah. And you do. Like there was a point in my life where I thought I was going to be this old lady with my dogs. That's what I thought until I met my husband now and he has two children. So they're my kids and they're amazing. So I've been blessed with that when I did. Yeah. I thought this is it.
I've done my research. I'm a PI here. Yeah, so you became a wife and a stepmum in 2022. Your husband, quite well known, Slade McFarland.
Yep, he is.
Like a New Zealand rugby legend. Yes. Like Maori, all black and played so much like club rugby and provincial rugby and super rugby in New Zealand. So you got married in 2022. He had two adult kids, young adult kids from a previous relationship.
So they were 15 and 13. So, yeah. I mean, they're 22 and 20 now.
Yeah.
Yeah. When we first met.
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Chapter 6: How does Kallia handle emotionally charged investigations?
No one's ever fucking ran on a private eye. Yeah. What are red flags in relationships?
Hiding the typical, hiding the phone, putting the phone on to non-disturb whenever you're talking, things like that. Always at work. Yeah, there's a few different ones or, oh, I need to go and do this, but you're not sure what it is. Catching up with a friend and then going, oh, I saw such and such are here.
Or they're going to see a friend and then that friend tells you, no, I never saw them, not sure where they are.
It's kind of what you were saying before, your gut. Yeah, you can generally trust your gut instinct.
What's Slade doing now? He works for Mates in Construction. It's funny because he said, you're not allowed to talk about me.
Oh, really?
And I said, because he said, this is about you because I'm not the forefront person. And so we have had this conversation because he is an amazing spokesman. He is, yeah, he does amazing work. He works for Mates in Construction now, which is suicide prevention. But he also works with Wiggy for Lean on a Gate, Talk to a Mate. So, and now I think it's mates for mates.
So he's on the road a lot, talking a lot. Yeah.
No more questions about him, I promise. Might have to get him on the podcast sometime. Yeah. I think he'd be a good guest.
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Chapter 7: What skills are essential for being a successful private investigator?
Yes.
Right. Yeah. I've seen that on movies.
Yeah. Yeah. But we don't say, you've been served.
Why not? As you walk away, do you say, you got served? It's a missed opportunity.
It is. It is. And yes, but there's still a professional element to it.
You don't want to be sassy about it. No. No. Okay.
And we've had people throw, I've had some guys that have had the documents thrown at their cars. I've had them try and shove them through a window back at them. We don't want this. Yeah. So, yeah.
So do you have to serve them and then like briskly sort of walk away? Yeah.
Yeah.
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Chapter 8: What types of cases does Kallia usually work on?
Yeah. Confused, like, how the hell did you find me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Depends on the reason of why we're wanting to find them. For example, an estate. Most people don't actually know that they're a beneficiary of an estate. That's a nice job. That's a really nice one to go, hey, this is why I'm calling you. Yeah. A lawyer's been trying to find you or a genealogist has been trying to find you. Here's their details. Are you okay with me passing your details to them?
And generally, yeah, all good. If it's because of finance, like taking a car loan, stop paying your car loan, sold the car, thought you'd skip off to Australia or something and get away with it, then come back to New Zealand, generally... They can be angry to start with or they'll hang up the phone or they just won't talk to you.
But you just have to let them know that, hey, this isn't going to go away. No matter what you do, whatever, like if you give her a year, two years, it's not going to go away and you're going to get yourself worse in trouble.
What are the main set of reasons people go to ground? Is it avoiding people or avoiding responsibilities?
I think it's avoiding responsibilities. I think a lot of it is avoiding responsibilities, yeah.
Jess, you're going into a lot of potentially volatile and quite dynamic situations, eh?
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