DONALD DUCKING KAMALA?! - August 27th, 2024

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Is Trump really trying to back out of a debate with Kamala Harris over muted mics?

Don Lemon 0:14
Good evening, everyone. You know what that music means. It is time for the Don Lemon Show live at five. And I have the perfect guest to discuss everything that's going on. Well, Donald Trump, will he go toe to toe with Kamala Harris with just two weeks until the previously agreed upon September 10th presidential debate? It takes place between the two campaigns. But the communication has broken down. Drop the mic or not drop the mic. That's what we're discussing. So what is the issue here? The issue when I say that is to mute the mic or not mute the mic. You know, when one person is talking, the previously agreed upon terms were one of them was that the mics would be closed or not open to the person who's not speaking.
Don Lemon 0:59
The Harris campaign wanted to change that. They wanted the mics open. I think they believe that it would show the real Donald Trump. And that Donald Trump would say something that would get him into trouble speaking to Kamala Harris when he's not supposed to be speaking. Donald Trump's campaign is saying, listen, we agreed upon those terms initially with the President Joe Biden. We expect those rules to stay into place. So we'll see what happens. There's some talk that maybe they've agreed upon the mics being closed, but I don't know. We need to check into that. So we're going to break it down with Bill Kristols here. You see him up there on your screen. He is the founding director of Defending Democracy Together and the editor-at-large of For the Bulwark.
Don Lemon 1:38
I love The Bulwark, by the way, Bill. And he writes a very brilliant morning newsletter called Morning Shots. I love the newsletter, but I love The Bulwark. You've got great people over there. By the way, thanks for asking me to join. That's sarcasm.
Bill Kristol 1:49
How are you? Haven't we asked? You've been on with Tim Miller, haven't you, I believe? I have been on with Tim Miller. Okay, sorry. I'm too thin-skinned about that.
Don Lemon 1:57
And with Sarah as well.
Bill Kristol 1:59
And Sarah too, yeah, I'm great.
Don Lemon 2:00
That's right.
Bill Kristol 2:01
I'm fine. How are you? I'm doing great. You survived Chicago?
Don Lemon 2:05
I survived Chicago. I'm a little scratchy. You know, I'm worried that it may have been a COVID spreader. Are you hearing that?
Bill Kristol 2:12
I mean, I wasn't there. I was at the beach for the week with the family and previously scheduled. And so I've heard other people say that they suspect that, but I think maybe people suspect that of any large event these days, huh?
Don Lemon 2:24
yeah yeah and it would not be surprising so bill let me ask you about this uh i want to roll this because we have some breaking news that we're going to talk about a lot we're going to talk about um the the convention we're going to talk about the debates of my situation but there is some news as uh coming in just as we're speaking now uh let's roll this this is a fox news alert
Unknown 2:46
All right, some news just into us right now where the special counsel, Jack Smith, has returned what they're calling a superseding indictment against Donald Trump in that D.C. case. It doesn't mean it's more. It just means it's more focused, I guess. Jeff, spunt on all of that right now. Sir.
David Spunt 3:04
Yeah, hi Neil. It is exactly a little bit more focused. In fact, the indictment itself, about 10 pages shorter than the original indictment from last year. So the same four core charges are included on this indictment. The reason that Donald Trump was re-indicted, if you will, is because the Supreme Court came back somewhat in his favor on July 1st of this year, telling Jack Smith, the special counsel, essentially in layman's terms, you need to go back and rethink about your case before District Judge Tonya Chutkan. This was supposed to go to trial on March 4th, but it was delayed because of the Supreme Court. So while all of these four court charges stay here relating to Donald Trump, the man and the candidate, some of the officials like Jeffrey Clark, the former DOJ official, have been taken out.
David Spunt 3:54
And this is a much more focused indictment. I also want to point out, Neil, that this is dealing with a new grand jury. So this grand jury did not hear anything about the other indictment from last August 1st of 2023.

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