LEMON DROP | Does Donald Trump Have A Fake Spokesman?!

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What C-SPAN call opens the episode and why should listeners pay attention?

Don Lemon 0:13
Okay, now I want you to, obviously I want you to watch this, but I really want you to listen very closely to this because this is a call that came into C-SPAN over the weekend, and it may sound familiar, even the name. Roll it.
C-SPAN operator / Host taking calls (Unknown) 0:31
John in Virginia, Republican. Let's hear from you.
Caller (portraying John Barron / Donald Trump) 0:35
Well, this is John Barron, and you have, look, this is the worst decision you've ever had in your life, practically. And Jack's going to agree with me, right? But this is a terrible decision. And you have Hakeem Jeffries, who he's a dope. And you have Chuck Schumer, who can't cook a cheeseburger. Of course these people are happy. Of course these people are happy. But true Americans will not be happy. And you have the woman earlier. I assume she's a woman. She's a Democrat.

Which 'John Barron' C-SPAN clip is played and what does it sound like?

Caller (portraying John Barron / Donald Trump) 1:01
But she said she's disgraced. She's devastated. All right, John.
C-SPAN operator / Host taking calls (Unknown) 1:07
We'll go to Chester, who's in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Don Lemon 1:10
Okay, so she cut him off really quickly there. I mean, it sounds like Donald Trump, right? And the guy's name is John Barron. That should be familiar to you because this has been known for years that Donald Trump will call in to certain... PR people, magazines, whatever, and pretend to be, this is what he did back in the day, reportedly, and pretend to be his own PR person, but not by his own name. This was a report. Now, this report is from, they say, you know the things that say, she get it from her mama, or he get it from his mama, or he get it from his daddy. Well, Donald Trump got this from his daddy. And that is what a frontline report tells you. Now, tell me if you don't recognize this. Listen.

What historical pattern of Trump using fake spokesperson names is described?

CNN report narrator (Unknown) 1:55
Trump had learned the tactic from his father, Fred Trump, who sometimes used the name Mr. Green.
Unknown 2:00
He was Mr. Green. Fred was, when he called up and asked questions. He said, this is Mr. Green. And Donald was later John Barron.
Commentator (Unknown) 2:11
I don't think Donald was necessarily evasive with the press when he used his alter ego, John Barron. I think it gave him the opportunity to say things that he couldn't say as Donald Trump.
Don Lemon 2:23
john barron helped take the heat off trump the media moved on and trump tower became his most iconic property okay so here's the thing barbara rezz worked for donald trump and she's saying she's saying that it's actually him she's not denying she's not alleging she's not reporting she's saying it's him and that he got to say what he wanted to say without um you know seeming self-indulged, self-serving, or maybe he's just getting something off of his chest. But look, either you think it's brilliant or it is sinister or it is really sad. Why don't you just get a PR person? and sit in the room with the PR person or tell the PR person what you would like them to say. And surely Donald Trump could have afforded a PR person.
Don Lemon 3:12
But it's not just then. I mean, look, it was John Barron.

How did reporters and former staffers like Barbara Rez confirm the 'John Miller/Barron' claims?

Don Lemon 3:14
It was others as well. John Barron is not the only one. Here's a CNN report from a few years ago.
CNN reporter excerpt / Narration (Unknown) 3:21
The real amazing story of Donald Trump's old spokesman, as the Washington Post headline writes, may be that it's been such an open secret for so long it's hard to believe that anyone is still questioning it. It was back in the 1980s, when the flashy New York real estate mogul needed to get a bit of news out. The newspaper reports it was common knowledge among New York reporters that Trump just assumed a different name and handled the media calls himself.
Don Lemon 3:51
Okay, so here's the thing. If you listen, this John Miller sounds a lot like the person from the C-SPAN call who's doing John Barron. I just want you to pay close attention to it. Listen.
CNN reporter excerpt / Narration (Unknown) 4:03
Like this call from reporter Sue Carswell at People magazine concerning Trump's breakup with girlfriend Marla Maples. What the heck?
CNN reporter excerpt / Narration (Unknown) 5:02
If that John Miller sounds like Trump, it's because audio forensic expert Tom Owen says, in his opinion, it is. I can conclude with a fair degree of scientific certainty that it is Donald Trump's voice. This afternoon, Owens compared the John Miller on that phone call with People magazine to the real Donald Trump interviewed on CNN's Larry King Live in the 1990s.

What does audio forensic analysis say about Trump’s alleged alter-ego recordings?

CNN reporter excerpt / Narration (Unknown) 5:26
Due to the quality of the old recordings, he couldn't use his biometric analysis that he says would be absolutely certain, but based on pitch, tone, cadence, and his expertise, John Miller and Donald Trump are one and the same.

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