Most parents are quietly paving the road their kids were supposed to learn to walk on by themselves and Jocko Willink has spent 20 years watching what happens when that road is too smooth.In this episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon sits down with Jocko Willink, retired Navy SEAL commander, founder of Echelon Front, and bestselling author of Extreme Ownership and Discipline Equals Freedom, to discuss:Why the "apex parent / apex kid" mindset is a quiet trap, and what to do instead of paving the roadHow nature vs nurture actually plays out and what you can and cannot shape in your childThe one trait Jocko wants his kids to inherit (and why every virtue becomes a vice when pushed to the extreme)The lie that successful, high-functioning people tell themselves about wanting moreThe single most important trait of a great leader and the one habit Jocko says will make every other part of your life better starting tomorrowYou'll walk away with a clearer operating system for the kind of parent, leader, and person you actually want to be and the one habit Jocko swears is the highest-ROI move any human can make.Thank you to our sponsors: BodyHealth - Use the code LYON20 to get 20% off your first order https://bit.ly/48SJ7ACOur Place - Visit https://bit.ly/4c8OrAB and use code DRLYON for 10% off sitewide.Branch Basics - Get 15% off the Premium Starter Kit at https://bit.ly/4eu4Mm8 with the code DRLYON.Amp - Visit https://bit.ly/41BvjXj to get your AI-powered at-home gym for smarter, personalized training.Watch on Spotify. If you’re subscribed to Spotify Premium, you don’t get any Spotify ads on my video.Explore More from Dr. Gabrielle LyonPremium Podcast Subscription: Ad-free episodes, key takeaway summaries, exclusive Q&A, and behind-the-scenes content https://foreverstrong.supercast.comWeekly newsletter: Recipes, podcast updates, and practical weekly insights https://drgabriellelyon.com/sign-up/Apply to become a patient: Personalized care with Dr. Lyon’s clinical team https://drgabriellelyon.com/new-patient-inquiry/Find JOCKO WILLINK at:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jockowillink/?hl=enFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jkowillink/Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jocko_willinkX: https://x.com/jockowillinkYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JockoPodcastOfficialLinkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocko-willink-260b289/Get Jocko Willink’s books: https://jocko.com/books/Connect with Dr. Gabrielle LyonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon/TikTok: @drgabriellelyonX (Twitter): https://x.com/drgabriellelyonFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyonChapters00:00 - Introduction: Leadership and parenting are the same skill03:24 - Nature vs nurture and the kids who won't compete06:56 - The guardrails of failure07:48 - Dharma and the path kids are meant to walk09:17 - The one trait Jocko wants his kids to inherit11:33 - What daughters should learn about men from their fathers13:32 - How men and women experience fear differently14:24 - Rebuilding trust after good people do bad things18:34 - Letting your daughter do cheerleading21:22 - Hiring people by putting them in the real environment24:22 - The lie successful people tell themselves29:16 - Strategic thinking vs the donut decision35:18 - What failure teaches that success cannot38:25 - Why Jocko stopped being about himself44:09 - Aging, losing movements, and rage against the dying of the light46:49 - Why a leader has to be in physical shape50:41 - The single most important trait of a leader54:09 - The one habit that changes everythingIf you found this episode valuable, share it with someone who would benefit from it.Disclaimers: This episode includes paid sponsorships.The Dr. Gabrielle Lyon Podcast and YouTube are for general information purposes only and do not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing, or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast, YouTube, or materials linked from this podcast or YouTube is at the user's own risk. The content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professional for any such conditions.

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