The Dr. John Delony Show
Owning Your Problems Is the Key to Unlocking Your Future (With Jade Warshaw)
02 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What challenges does Jade Warshaw face in her life?
Sam will tell you, living with Jade is hard, because Jade does not let anything slide. What does that get you? Reality. It's the life happening around it that makes it more crushing. If I can not be in that role, I love it. But if I have to, trust and believe.
I will.
Hey, what's going on? This is John with the Dr. John Deloney Show, coming to you from Nashville, Tennessee. Normally we take calls from real people going through real challenges. Um, and we sit down and figure out what's the next right move. We pull up a seat at the table and on today's show, I actually have somebody pull up a seat at the table.
It's somebody I've traveled the country with somebody I've done live events with somebody I've shared meals with and somebody I'm going to be honest with you. I thought I knew really well. And I'm talking about my friend, Jade Warshaw. Um, she is a powerhouse and, um, She's got a new book out called What No One Tells You About Money. And we're inundated.
We're inundated with money books, money headlines, money. Here's what you do. Here's what you do with your money, whatever. Nobody talks about what it feels like when you open up your account or when you're sitting there trying to make this thing called a budget or when you get your paycheck and it's already gone. Nobody talks about that despair.
Now, he talks about what it's like to look up and actually add up all the money you owe somebody else, all the banks, all the car dealerships, and to realize, I'm never going to be able to have kids. I'm never going to be able to buy a house.
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Chapter 2: How does Jade's upbringing influence her current mindset?
And Jade's got a pretty extraordinary story where her and her husband worked through it all. But this conversation is easily the most raw conversation I've had on this show. There's lots of tears shed. There's lots of hard questions asked back and forth. It's one of the most powerful conversations I've ever been a part of, period, much less recorded.
And so if you are one of the millions and millions and millions of Americans or anybody all over the world who you're reading all these money headlines and yada, yada. But dude, the headlines don't capture what's going on inside your chest at your kitchen table when you can't pay your bills. Or when you're like, dude, my kid can't go to that school.
Or I have to decide between light this month or food. Or I want my kid to be able to go to this college or this school and it's never going to happen. Or I'm never going to be able to buy a house because of the crushing weight of all this stuff. If you ever feel that, I felt it, dude. I've paced my house at night, not knowing how I'm going to pay my bills.
And I've not, outside of a few other times, I don't really have ever felt that alone. And so if this is you, and I know it's a lot of y'all listening, I want you to pull up a seat and listen to this conversation with me and my friend, Jade. It will give you some light in the darkness and it will make you feel less alone. Jay's new book, What No One Tells You About Money comes out January 6th.
That's my birthday. So for my birthday, I want you to buy this book and I want you to read it. And I want you to read it with your friends, with your spouse. I want you to pull up a seat and exhale. And maybe for the first time in a long time, not feel so alone. And more importantly, or equally importantly, you're going to have a roadmap out.
It's a real roadmap that Jade cut out in the forest with a machete, her and her husband, Sam. Like they created a path that you can follow and it's a path to freedom. So pull up a seat, get your friends around. This is safe for your kids to listen to. Like, this is a good one. And this is a powerful one. Thank you for joining me and my friend, Jade Warshaw for an important, powerful conversation.
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Chapter 3: What financial struggles did Jade and her husband encounter?
I've known you for several years now. We've traveled the country together. Yeah. Our desks are, like, down the wall from each other. Yeah, yours is by the window. I'm a little resentful of that. It's cool, man. Like, one of the last remainings. Tell me about Jade growing up. Oh, my gosh. Jade growing up. Okay. You know, I feel like I can tell you from other people's perspective.
Because, like, when you're a kid, you're just, like, in your life. You're not, like, thinking about it. Okay, do this. Like, you're a parent. You got two kids. You're a mom.
Mm-hmm.
Take that view towards 6, 9, 10-year-old kid. Very creative, very imaginative, always had ideas that were a little bit different. About what?
Bossy.
I remember distinctly having this idea that I wanted to be an architect and I wanted to design my own home. Basically, what I had in my mind was a tiny house today. And I wanted to design this own place and just live completely by myself. And that was an idea that I had. And when we moved to Tennessee as a family, we were coming around a bend and there was a little tiny shack.
And I was like, that's it. Like, that's the tiny house I want to live in. Like, it was like, I saw it come true. And my family was like, no, you don't want to live there. Like, that's sad. But anyway. So was creativity celebrated or were you a weird kid? Uh, I think that it wasn't uncelebrated, but it also wasn't invested in. So like for me growing up, it was like sports.
Like if you could excel in sports, we'll invest in that. We'll get you what you need.
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Chapter 4: How did Jade and her husband work through their financial issues?
We'll be at the games, but like music, not, not as much. And so while I loved sports and I love basketball, love volleyball, love jump roping, um, I I also really loved singing and loved the arts. But it was like my mom was the singer. So I never felt like I wanted to really show them that I could do that because I felt like I'd have to be compared with my mom. My mom's an amazing singer.
And so I used to hide that. And I thought that if I sang under the covers, nobody could hear me. And so I'd sing under the covers thinking nobody could hear me. Is that weird being in... I mean, that's a pretty astute understanding at a young age. Like, I'm competing. Everything was a competition. Tell me about that. Um, so, okay. So my dad was a football coach.
So there's that, like there's coach. Like what ages was he coaching? My whole life, my whole like young life. I was born into him coaching, um, at Eastern Washington university before that he was at Nebraska. Yeah. So, and then when I was first, second, third grade, he was at Oregon state. So like coaching, coaching. Yeah. Yeah. Not like YMCA coaching, but like a professional college coach.
Professional college coach, Pac-10, like legit. And so because of that, like the nature of that life, you do move a lot. So like I was born in Washington, moved to Oregon, moved to Kansas, moved to Illinois, moved to Tennessee. We were supposed to move to Texas, but my dad moved because we had already moved so much that he went on his own.
And because of that, like I said before, it's like, you're going to these cities, you have to make friends. And for me, I was always like all of those parts of the country, like I was always the only black kid in my class, sometimes like in the entire school. And so for me, the first thing was like, how can I make friends? Like I can't like, cause it was a competition.
Like I've got to be able to fit in.
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Chapter 5: What role does honesty play in Jade's relationships?
I've got to be able to make friends. I've got to be better than the other options. Otherwise I'm going to get left out. I'm going to get made fun of. So it's like, hey, Now I can prove to them, like, I can be really great at sports, really talented, like, all of these things to prove that I'm, like, up here. And so that's how it got to be for me. Like, I can't just play basketball.
I have to be the best one on the team. I can't just be the best one on the team. I have to be the captain of the team. But usually that social pressure—I'll say usually. Sometimes that social pressure, you come home, and you can drop your shoulders. But if you walk in the house and— I'm also competing with mom. I'm also competing with dad. That's heavy.
I don't know that I was in my head competing with them, but I definitely... I know this is... I can't let this part of myself be seen because that's theirs. A little bit of that. A little bit of that. Um... I'm sorry, I know what I want to say, but I'm deciding, do I want to say it? You can say it and we can edit it out.
I also know, like, I felt like I did have a very clear role to play in my house. It wasn't necessarily as, like, my brother was the jester. Like, he was the one that was, like, comic relief. But I feel like I was the one that was, like, I have to keep everything together. Like, I have to keep everything balanced. If they're angry, like, I got to make it right.
If they're this, I got to... So I have to be, like, good grades...
you know not getting in trouble not like that was my role is like i'm gonna be straight ahead if you ask me jade clean up the kitchen i'm gonna do it perfect if you say jade get dinner started when you get home i'm gonna do it perfect like that that was my role because i didn't want anything to like i want like peacekeeper like i don't want anything to disrupt it how is that shown back up in your adult life
Ah, I feel like it's gone the opposite direction. Now I don't care about keeping peace at all. I'm like, I am the most truth teller that I can be because I spent a lot of time covering things. So now I'm like almost to a fault.
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Chapter 6: How can we redefine our understanding of fairness in life?
I feel like I have to say what it is. And in this role, it served me well. Yeah. What was that switch? Most people never make that switch until their marriage is in ashes. Probably getting married. Probably being married and understanding that you have to live in reality if you want a marriage to work. yeah, most people don't.
It took me like being married 15 years for us like, oh, we're about to not be married anymore. But if you see, if you see the opposite, then you know, like we all take things from our past, right? Like we take, we, most of the times we're like, oh, you know, my parents, they taught me this and this and you're like naming all these wonderful things. But you can also learn so much of what not to do.
I don't want to do that. Yes. And I mean, listen, my kids are going to learn things from me of what not to do. I hope they learn more of what to do. But, You can either look at the stuff that was negative and go, oh my God, I can't believe this happened, blah, blah, blah. Or you can go, hey, I just got a crash course in what I'm not going to do. And that's so great to be able to know that.
They're all learnings and it's all research. So I knew, I'm like, we must, like, and Sam will tell you, you know Sam. Sam will tell you, living with Jade is hard because Jade does not let anything slide. I don't let anything slide. And sometimes he's like, can we just, like, can you please just- What is holding it so tight? What does that get you? Reality. Living in reality, I'm like Judge Judy.
I'm like, don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. That is my number one thing. I cannot stand it. I can't stand it. And... My, so when I came here to Ramsey, I started seeing a therapist and she told me, she was like, you know, for you, Jade, she was like, you just want, you just want somebody to hear something and verify that it was true.
Because when you were a kid, nobody acknowledged anything. And I was like, yes. And so you go in your head and you're like, after a while, when nobody, when something happens and nobody acknowledges it, after a while, you're like, okay. did I make that up? Or like, did I, did I? And so I, I hate that.
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Chapter 7: What lessons does Jade learn from her experiences?
And so now in reality, if something happens, I'm be like, Oh, why did you lie? Or why did I lie? Or, um, you know, like I just, I just say it because I want to know that it was said, and I want to know that I acknowledged it. And it was like marked as, yeah, that happened. You know, I'm like that. I know you've seen it. I know. Um, um, um, uh, I'm just not playing games out here.
Is that exhausting? No. No? It's easy. It's so liberating. Why would it be hard? Why is it hard? Let me say it this way. Let me say it this way. Not easy, but in our current world, and by the way, this is one of my favorite things about you. That's why I consider you somebody I trust. That comes at a cost. Does that make sense? Yeah, then they weren't supposed to be by me anyway.
I know, but that's lonely, though. Do you think or no? And I get what I'm saying. It sounds like what I'm saying is I'd rather be surrounded by a bunch of people who kind of don't know than have nobody, right? But it's an exhausting—when you feel like you're the only person in any environment, any relationship, anything, always calling it out, that's exhausting. Or maybe it's freeing.
For me, it doesn't feel exhausting. Somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got to do it. And let's be honest, most of us only have a couple of really close friends anyway. Right. So everything else is like... outer layer stuff. Like, it's nice to have, but the people who know me best, my husband, my sister, my buddy, you know, I have a couple of buddies that, like, they know me.
And they have never been like, hey, Jade, you're a little too honest. They've never said that. They've always accepted me as I am. And so I'm fine with that. And like anybody else, if it makes them uncomfortable, it's because they're probably trying to hide something.
Yeah.
Or they're trying to play me and I'm like, why are you trying to play me? Don't do that.
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Chapter 8: How does Jade's perspective on endurance shape her life choices?
If the whole world operated like you, we would get, we would be able to operate at a much higher level. That's awesome. Well, that's very, that is very kind. Probably overly kind, but I'll take it. No. I struggle with the balance of saying something and then letting something just happen.
Mm.
That makes sense. And so like I, it's a, it's a daily thing for me to live in reality. It's a, that's a practice for me, but also is the reality of me saying this thing, is that going to get me the reality or do I need to have, I remember talking to one guy and it was like the only thing worse who hated conflict. And as a professional, I mean, he does conflict for a living.
He's a famous guy, but I remember him saying the only thing I hate worse than conflict is going to bed knowing. You didn't tell the truth today. And it's a war inside him, right? And so I wrestle with that. Like, I need to speak up here and say something or everybody in this room knows how insane this is.
I'm going to let this plane land because I know it's going to land because this is madness, right? I wrestle with that. Well, I mean, let's get one thing straight. If you, and I will say that I was guilty of this. If I'm this way and it's only towards other people, then I'm just critical, right? Like, I'm just always going, well, this is what you did, this is what you said, da-da-da-da-da.
I had a really good friend. You need good friends. I had a really good friend that she was like, man, you're hard to know. She was like, you're just— What does that mean? She was like, you just—it takes—she said, it takes so long to get to know you.
Wow.
And this was years back, and I was like, I don't know what you mean by that. And then I had another friend, I asked another friend, and she was like, yeah. She was like, think about it. We knew each other 10 years before we were really good friends. Like, really. And I was like, huh. And then I asked another friend, and they were like, yeah. So I got the verification. And then I had kids.
And that, that's really what I think changed that of like, Hey, I can't just be like laser focused on what everybody else is doing and calling it. Like I have to, uh, even though I'm doing that within myself, I have to be open to other people so that it doesn't just come across as man. Jade is critical. Jade is just like really tough.
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