In partnership with Club Oenologique - the world through the lens of wine and spirits. David talks to one of the most important figures in Argentine wine, Dr Laura Catena, at the helm of family winery Catena Zapata. Until recently a practising paediatrician at a San Francisco hospital she talks about the influence of her pioneering father, Nicolas, the importance of science, sustainability and old vines in the production of distinctive altitude wines. There’s even a moment for an empanada. Featured medal winners: Argentina’s wines are being judged next month, in situ, in Argentina so we feature medal winning Argentine gins from the IWSC spirits judging in 2023. Featured Gins: Spirit Santo Gin (gold) Athos Gin (silver) La Salvaje del Littoral Criolla Gin (silver) Malaria Gin, Raven Clan Distillery (silver) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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