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Chapter 1: What new evidence challenges the O.J. Simpson case narrative?
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And that's why we've become one of the top shows in the world. And I'm very grateful for that, and I hope we continue to do that for the next 10 years. But this year, every once in a while, I want to do something that's a little bit off the beaten path for our show, which is to have a topic on the show that just fascinates me personally.
And in my lifetime, one of the two or three most compelling stories, the things that just stand out as moments in time that I'll never forget, is the O.J. Simpson trial.
And some information came across my desk about six months ago from somebody that has a theory as to exactly what happened in the murders of Nicole Simpson, Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, that I thought was interesting enough that I wanted to share it with you. And so today we're going to have a conversation with him.
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Chapter 2: How does Chris Todd believe multiple people were involved in the murders?
We haven't recorded it yet. We're about to go into it. And I just want to be clear. I'm not a detective. I'm not in law enforcement. I'm not an attorney. And I don't claim to know what happened exactly in the loss of life for these two precious souls. But he believes he does. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask the questions that I think you would want me to ask.
And I think it's going to be one of the most interesting, fascinating episodes of all time on the show. And then you can decide what you think happened. And so can I at the end of the conversation. And so... I'll work on your behalf to get as much information as I can and keep it as entertaining as possible. I hope you enjoy this. Here we go.
All right, guys, so I've already sort of introduced the episode today, so let me just introduce the person. I'm going to talk to Chris Todd. Chris is a veteran PI, been a private investigator a long time, but he's just one of the great truth seekers in the world today, whether that be what happened with Kurt Cobain or Biggie Smalls or what we're going to talk about today mainly, which is O.J.
Simpson and the O.J. Simpson trial. And I got to tell you, Chris, first, welcome to the show, brother. Good to have you here.
Thank you, man. I'm honored to be here with you, Ed. Thank you.
I should tell you first in the audience why I have such an interest in this. Obviously, it's one of the most compelling stories of my lifetime. But I have to tell you, I haven't told you this until I wanted to record.
This trial and what happened to particularly Nicole matters to me because I was fresh out of college and my business partner in my first business was dating Nicole's sister at the time the murder happened.
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Chapter 3: What inconsistencies in blood evidence raise questions about the investigation?
Really?
And so I spent time around the family during the trial.
Wow.
A little insight into what the family was thinking initially as well. And so this is not just something that I watched on TV. It's something that I was at least in a peripheral way around the trial. and a little bit around the family. And so I'm really interested in to hear what you've discovered or what your theories are.
Before you tell us what they are, on a scale of 1 to 100, how sure are you that what you're about to share with us is accurate? Is it a 90? Is it a 52? How sure are you?
I would say it's a 90. And the reason I leave that little 10% is because, you know, I've dealt with a lot of accomplices and criminals, let's say. And you have to be careful what you believe from what they say. So I always leave, I'll leave you like 10%.
And we're going to get into something interesting today that I'm going to talk about that there's actually another person involved with them that took me a long time to really kind of vet. So it's a fascinating story. My journey is beyond comprehension and, you know, all glory to God in a way of how I was brought into this and we can get into that stuff.
You know, as we go, I might know who your friend is that probably day. I won't say his name, but I think I might know who that is.
Off camera, I'll share that with you, but not relative to the story. But I want to protect those folks as well. But let's start out by asking you. Most of us that watch that trial, I'd say the majority of people that watch the trial, eventually reach the conclusion that they believe that O.J. killed Ron Goldman and Nicole Brown Simpson.
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Chapter 4: What theories exist about the timeline of events leading to the murders?
This was the beginning of this saga after I kind of met one of the key players, let's say. I came forward against that person. Today, I won't say their full name. I can say the actual name that O.J. used. Right. O.J. kept calling him Charlie. So that's in O.J. 's book, Chapter six of If I Did It. And O.J.
supposedly had confessed cryptically to Judith Regan, to Fox that interview was shelved for 12 years. It was barred from the public. OK, the overview is because there's so much. I mean, just there's I mean, this is seven years of. I saw things that I cannot even explain. So basically, OJ didn't do it alone, okay?
And I know for a fact there's one person with them, there's possibly two people with them, okay? That's where I leave that 10%, okay? I know 150% that OJ did not do this alone. And a lot of people, like you said, a lot of people knew that too. And there was a lot of evidence. There was other shoe prints and blood there. There were other fingerprints.
There was blood DNA in the Bronco and at the murder scene that did not match OJ, Ron, or Nicole. And I learned, and look, I'm not going to talk badly about the LAPD because they've actually been pretty cool listening over the years. They could have ignored me a lot, right? But they've listened. And whether they do something, that's up to them. I don't control that.
Chapter 5: What role did forensic details play in shaping public perception of the case?
But OJ did it. He had help. And it solves all the mysteries of like where the clothes went and the shoes and the knife. Why'd they never find that stuff? How did he get back to his house so fast? How did he get rid of everything? And nobody saw the Bronco. And where was the Bronco at the house? Like he got dropped off. He jumped a fence. There was all this stuff. And.
Like most of the public, I was a fan. I was in college. I was 20 years old when it happened. And so I did live it too. And when I first met these guys, there was a couple of people involved with these projects, so to speak. I couldn't believe it. And it took me about a year to truly believe it after vetting it using other sources, using my investigative techniques.
And I mean, I didn't sleep for a few nights after I was made aware of what was going on.
Imagine. So let me go through what I understand. And you'll just correct me because I'll be wrong about this is 30 years ago or whatever it was. But my understanding is, is that there was some sort of a recital or something at school that day. Nicole ends up having dinner with family. And I think it's Metzaluna. I think that's the name of the place. Ron was a server there.
And I think maybe OJ came there and there was a disagreement or he left. That part you can clear up.
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Chapter 6: How did the media influence public understanding of the O.J. Simpson trial?
But how do you get from Metzaluna to OJ pulling up? Let me just help speed this up too. OJ lives down the street. There's a front entrance in Nicole's house. There's a back entrance in Nicole's house. My understanding is you believe that he drove down what would be considered like the back alley that night. fix what I just said that's wrong.
My understanding also is that Nicole supposedly left some glasses at the restaurant, called the restaurant, Ron agrees to deliver them to the house that night, and One, how did he get there? And B, why did he do this? What compels this guy? He was obviously violent with her in the past, but this night, did he intend to kill her? Did he intend to scare her?
What makes him get in his car, knowing he's flying to Chicago, I think, later that night, and drive over there and do this? What spurred this change in his behavior or acceleration of his behavior?
Yeah, and you remind me at the end, I'm going to start with the first part of what you said, and then I should be able to remember that second part. There is a recital. Nicole does go to dinner at Metzaluna with her family and the kids. O.J. doesn't go. Whether O.J. was invited or not, there's a lot of different theories.
Was he at the recital? Yeah.
He was filmed there. A guy from Portland, Oregon filmed OJ kissing one of his children. And that was a big piece of the story and case. So he was there. Nicole and OJ were not speaking to each other at this time. On June 12th, 1994, they hated each other.
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Chapter 7: What implications do the findings have for the justice system?
Like cats and dogs, man. I can't explain it. There's a couple things about this IRS letter. They, I mean, they were, it was bad. It was really bad. And there were a lot of warning signs over the years, okay? And these friends should have stepped in. This murder is not premeditated. It's not. OK, O.J.
's waiting for a limousine to come take him to the airport to go to Chicago within minutes, minutes. I'm not talking hours. I'm talking within minutes. OK, basically what happens is I'm going to say two men show up at Rockingham and tell O.J. they owe some money to them.
OJ and them owe these people money?
There's two. I'm going to say this because I can say this legally. Charlie, quote unquote, and another gentleman that I may say the name as we go because he died. He's dead. Okay. If I remove... I know Charlie's there. If I remove the second guy, right, and I just focus on one guy doing an extortion, right? You owe us money. They owe us money for drugs.
You guys have been, you know, you have to understand the mafia mentality. It's a setup. It's an extortion to get money out of him because OG has nowhere to go. Who's he going to go to?
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Chapter 8: What are the lasting impacts of the O.J. Simpson case on American society?
The cops? He can't go anywhere. So OJ had a drug problem. A lot of people knew that. And he was entangled in the wrong crowd, period. So was Nicole. So was Faye Resnick. To some degree, Keith Z may have been. These were the people from Mezzaluna. These were the good friends of Nicole. There was a lot of stuff going on in L.A. in 94, okay?
Basically, OJ freaks out and says, no, I'm not giving you a dime. And the tables have turned. And OJ says, we're going to Nicole's. And he has them go in a Bronco with him to Nicole's house. At about 10, 20 p.m., he leaves Rockingham. Because the limo lands at like 10, 25. He misses them. The limo never sees a Bronco.
What compels this guy, knowing he's getting on an airplane, to drive over there? So you're saying what compelled him is one or two of these shadowy figures, kind of mob dudes, and he's investigated this, everybody. This isn't something that he's just looked, you know, it's actually something that OJ said as well. So these guys... Here's the confrontation.
Backdrop on that just really quickly is you said OJ had a drug problem. Did OJ also help, do you believe, in his past maybe distribute or sell any of these drugs to people? And that's why he was entangled with these two guys?
Absolutely. He was facilitating deals with these two men. Absolutely. 100%. And I can prove that. And also AC was too. And that can be proven also. Some of it's in the public domain.
It's talk. He's dealing drugs when he's got a Hertz rental car deal. He's making some movies. I think he's doing football on NBC at the time. Is he hurting for money? How is he hurting for money? Plus, he's got an NFL pension. Why is he dealing drugs?
This is the segue into The Seven Deadly Sins. This is the segue into Temptation. I believe through my cases, a lot of them, and I talk about this, my spirituality and God and Jesus with these cases and how they helped me in a way, is OJ was possessed. by anger, jealousy, rage. He's angry. He's embarrassed. He's mad. And when we hit that point of no return, there is no turning back.
He couldn't turn back. He told his bail bondsman in Vegas years later, I should have just got on my plane. He knew in the retrospect, what was I doing? Why? He could have told these guys, hey, chill out. I'll take care of it. Why does he need to race to Nicole's before he's going to get in a limo to go on an airplane? Because of his anger.
So if I could, I don't want to do that a lot, but there's just in case people aren't familiar. There was a this was a very volatile relationship. There was violence in the relationship. They'd broken up and got back together several times. There are, you know, pretty valid stories that maybe that Nicole had dated. We'll call it dated a few of OJ's friends. He had had some frustration about that.
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