James Haskell: The Hard Truth About Success, Reinvention & Life After Rugby

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What key lessons does James Haskell share about self‑awareness and feedback in sport and business?

James Haskell 0:00
My dad taught me a very salutary lesson which was you can lie to everyone else but you can't lie to yourself. If you're gonna deliver feedback, look at the people you're gonna deliver feedback to. Are they able to hear it? Are they able to listen to it? Think about it is when you've got your own business. Nobody cares about your business as much as you do. Because I didn't want the brand to look Rolls-Royce, but you've got a lawnmower engine. I wanted it to be Rolls-Royce branding, but Rolls-Royce in interior. And if you are not creating conversation in 2026 when everyone's offended even by their own shadow or has an opinion by every you really are making b contact James welcome to the part.
Gary Fox 0:30
Thank you. Thank you for having me. An absolute pleasure to sit down with you. I really was keen to talk to you because, like, I think you symbolize what a modern founder is. You wear so many hats. We were literally just talking about it before we hit play. Um, you wear so many hats. But I want to just start back at your sporting career in terms of sport and business, because the two of them overlap so much. When you were within sport, what's one lesson every founder can take?
James Haskell 0:56
Um, so I think uh the f the the self awareness and feedback Point is really, really essential. I think that um, you know, in a sporting environment, because of the linear approach to kind of success, which is what I was very attracted to. And actually I was a big rugby fan, I was a big wasp fan. Um, but I think what drove me later in my career was not necessarily the passion for the sport, but was the um the sort of instant feedback repayment. So you you train hard, you work hard, you sacrifice, you get results, you change your body. You perform, you get selected, you play well, you get selected again. And then there's a quite a clear approach to higher honours. You know, your your county, your your club, your club first team, winning trophies, England, England maintaining your position, Lions, trophy.
James Haskell 1:42
It it it all goes very quickly. Whereas in the real world, it's very difficult to decipher how and when you're successful. You know, clearly if you're a multimedia. you've you've reached level of success. But for most people w where's the success come from and on what time frames you put it? Is it money in the bank? Is it partner? Is it the car you have? Is it the house you have? So I found that transition quite difficult but I think What I enjoyed about sport was the fact that you would um have to listen to feedback, selection coaches, opinions, people, be able to decipher whose feedback you value, and then um the self-awareness to listen to it and to change. And, you know, there were two or three big moments in my career where I perhaps um my ego
James Haskell 2:25
didn't want to listen to what had been said, and I went away. And my my dad taught me a very salutary lesson, which was you can lie to everyone else, but you can't lie to yourself. And I think people would suggest things you might rail against it and then sit on your own time and go, is there any truth in that? Is it right? And I think, as I said, there's probably three occasions in my career that then changed the way I performed what I did, um, that really, really helped me. And so I think that's a l valuable lesson. In business or in life is to be able to be self aware to go, look, how am I, what am I, what makes me tick, what kind of personality do I have, what kind of impact I have on other people, how do people to react react to me, what's my skill set, where am I where are my blind spots, and then also be able to change and listen.
James Haskell 3:05
And I think a lot of people struggle to do that. Um they they they can't they don't know how to reach out to people doing what they want to do better than them and be prepared to to have that feedback, you know?
Gary Fox 3:15
Yeah, you nailed something really important there. I talked to a lot of founders about like what does success mean to you? Because exactly to your point, they'll often start and it'll kind of meander and they'll just keep going. But there's very few roadmarks along the way to go you're on the right path.

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