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Attorney General Pam Bondi repeatedly clashes with Democrats

12 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What were the main points of contention during Pam Bondi's hearing?

4.25 - 27.152 Dana Taylor

Attorney General Pam Bondi clashed repeatedly with Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday in a fiery hearing. Among other heated topics was the release of the Epstein documents and the redactions and lack thereof on those files. Top House Committee Democrat Representative Jamie Raskin accused the Justice Department of redacting the names of multiple men for political reasons.

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27.132 - 43.96 Pam Bondi

As Attorney General, you're siding with the perpetrators and you're ignoring the victims. That will be your legacy unless you act quickly to change course. You're running a massive Epstein cover-up right out of the Department of Justice.

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43.94 - 57.093 Dana Taylor

Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Excerpt. I'm Dana Taylor. Today is Thursday, February 12th, 2026. Here to help me dig into the substance of the hearing yesterday is USA Today Justice Department correspondent Ayesha Bakshi.

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Chapter 2: How did Democrats accuse the Justice Department of a cover-up?

57.454 - 73.39 Dana Taylor

Ayesha, it's so good to speak to you. It's good to be here. Thanks, Dana. In short, this hearing was very much a story of Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. Not surprisingly, lawmakers split very much along party lines with Bondi's questioning. What did Democrats accuse her of and how did she respond?

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73.775 - 87.876 Ayesha Bakshi

Yes, Epstein was the biggest story of the day, basically, in the hearing, and multiple Democrats on the committee and one prominent Republican accused Pambondi of basically engaging in a massive cover-up when it comes to the Epstein files.

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88.457 - 100.035 Ayesha Bakshi

This goes back quite a way because there are a lot of allies of President Donald Trump who are in the Trump administration right now who, going back to years before Trump even retook the Oval Office,

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100.015 - 118.986 Ayesha Bakshi

were suggesting to the American public that the FBI, the Department of Justice, knew things about Jeffrey Epstein and his potential associates and knew things about crimes that they may have committed that they were covering up. And we even saw from Pam Bondi when she joined the Trump administration, when she became the attorney general,

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Chapter 3: What claims did Pam Bondi make about the Epstein documents?

118.966 - 134.803 Ayesha Bakshi

she suggested to the American public that there was a lot that had been covered up under the administration of Joe Biden and that her Justice Department was going to reveal. At one point, she said in an interview that there was a client list on her desk and that things were going to come out.

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134.863 - 152.849 Ayesha Bakshi

Later, she walked back that comment and suggested that there were just some files on her desk and she wasn't referring to the list. But Pam Bondi has been part of setting these expectations for the American people that there was something corrupt that happened under previous administrations and that the current Trump administration was going to do something about it.

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153.41 - 176.382 Ayesha Bakshi

And then we've seen unfold when it comes to this story, a big kind of walk back from the Trump administration Pam Bondi, her Justice Department released a memo in July saying it had reviewed its files on Jeffrey Epstein and that it hadn't found anything that warranted further investigation of someone who hadn't previously been charged.

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176.863 - 198.337 Ayesha Bakshi

Only Jeffrey Epstein and his longtime accomplice and former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, were charged by federal prosecutors in relation to sex trafficking. Jeffrey Epstein died in a Manhattan jail before he could go to trial, and Ghislaine Maxwell was ultimately convicted of sex trafficking, a minor to him, and she's serving a 20-year prison sentence.

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Chapter 4: What criticisms did the Justice Department face regarding victim names?

198.798 - 212.659 Ayesha Bakshi

Pam Bondi's Justice Department said that there's no one else implicated in the files that should be investigated and that further disclosures of the documents wasn't warranted. They talked about the idea of child sexual abuse materials and not wanting to release them.

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212.639 - 228.353 Ayesha Bakshi

And basically, this sparked a lot of outrage from a wide segment of the American public, not just Democrats who normally criticize the Trump administration, also a lot of supporters of Donald Trump who have believed that there's more to this story than what the U.S. government has predicted.

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228.333 - 248.805 Ayesha Bakshi

And that led to members of Congress on both sides of the aisle passing an act trying to force the Justice Department's hands when it comes to releasing these documents. The department was supposed to do that by December 19th. And on that day, basically, it said, we're not going to meet that deadline. We're going to release some documents today.

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248.785 - 265.36 Ayesha Bakshi

And we're going to release further files down the line. Finally, at the end of January, the deputy attorney general under Pam Bondi, Todd Blanch, said it was basically completing that process and releasing in total about 3.5 million pages of documents.

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Chapter 5: How did Bondi respond to accusations of politicizing investigations?

265.34 - 285.39 Ayesha Bakshi

but withholding another about $2.5 million. And now the American public is looking at those documents and seeing a lot of redactions, a lot of things covered up that many members of Congress don't believe comply with the transparency law trying to force this release. And so there's this ongoing controversy about whether the Trump administration

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285.37 - 308.316 Ayesha Bakshi

is being fully transparent with the American people. There's a context for this. Donald Trump had a long former friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. He's not alone in that. Among prominent people, President Bill Clinton, it's very clear, had some sort of relationship with Jeffrey Epstein as well. Neither of them has been implicated in crimes by evidence that's come out in relation to Jeffrey Epstein.

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308.796 - 313.842 Ayesha Bakshi

But there's just this concern that the Justice Department isn't being transparent

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Chapter 6: What were the concerns raised about the DOJ's transparency?

313.822 - 335.597 Ayesha Bakshi

And that played out in a major way at the hearing. Pam Bondi defended the department's actions. She said a lot about how the department is trying to protect victims in particular. She said that that they're open to investigating anyone. But it's also true that in this release of documents, the department released a lot of victim names and had to redact those later.

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335.637 - 355.455 Ayesha Bakshi

That's something that was not supposed to happen later. under this transparency law and doesn't really accord with what the Justice Department said was its commitment to protecting people who've accused Jeffrey Epstein and are at least potential victims. So Pam Bondi experienced a lot of heat on this topic. She basically defended the department's record.

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355.435 - 359.62 Ayesha Bakshi

There were two especially prominent names that came out in that list.

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Chapter 7: How did the hearing reflect on the relationship between the DOJ and the Trump administration?

360.22 - 384.767 Ayesha Bakshi

One was Les Wexner. He's a former CEO of Victoria's Secret. He has been known to have had a long relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, even though there's some mystery surrounding that relationship. It definitely was financial in part. And then there was a prominent businessman. His name is Sultan Ahmed bin Sulaim. He's a businessman, an Emirati businessman from Dubai.

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384.747 - 394.56 Ayesha Bakshi

And his name was released as one of those six men. And he has been connected to an email exchange he had with Jeffrey Epstein about a so-called torture video.

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395.261 - 411.902 Ayesha Bakshi

So basically, Congressman Thomas Massey, a Republican from Kentucky, and Congressman Ro Khanna, a Democrat from California, have banded together saying that in just a short amount of time, a couple hours looking at unredacted files on Justice Department computers.

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Chapter 8: What were the final thoughts on the implications of this hearing?

411.882 - 432.552 Ayesha Bakshi

They could find these six names of men who the names were redacted when the transparency law was not supposed to shield those types of people, at least according to the congressmen, who were the ones who were lead sponsors of the transparency law. And they say, if we could find this in two hours, what does that say for what else might have been shielded from the American people?

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432.612 - 455.743 Ayesha Bakshi

And all these redactions across more than three million pages of documents. When it comes to the two men, Les Wexner has previously spoken up about Jeffrey Epstein a little bit. A representative of his once said that a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor, had told him that he's not a target of an investigation. And basically he had provided some information about his background with Jeffrey Epstein.

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455.723 - 479.589 Ayesha Bakshi

But Thomas Massey, the Republican from Kentucky, in the hearing suggested that there was a document in which someone from the Justice Department may have labeled Les Wexner as a potential co-conspirator in relation to Epstein at one point. And he said that that name was redacted in that document. and basically suggested to Pam Bondi that it's a signal that there may be a cover-up happening here.

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480.03 - 499.972 Ayesha Bakshi

It's important to note Pam Bondi really pushed back against that. She said that Les Wexner's name was revealed in other documents, even if not in that one, and she expressed some kind of skepticism. as if the congressman was trying to create a controversy where there wasn't one. But his big point is that this particular document was suggesting that Wexner might have been a co-conspirator.

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500.433 - 522.832 Ayesha Bakshi

And that was valuable for the American people to know that someone in the DOJ might have thought that at one point. And Pam Bondi also said that people weren't going after the Biden administration in the same way over the Epstein documents. And Thomas Massey fired back and said he agrees that basically he thinks there's been a cover up across multiple administrations.

522.872 - 535.41 Ayesha Bakshi

He said that this story is worse than Watergate. And now he's asking the attorney general about her role in her Justice Department's role in bringing what he thinks is much needed transparency to the case.

535.508 - 543.12 Dana Taylor

Democrats also exhorted Bondi over her department's failure to redact dozens of victims' names. What was her response?

543.681 - 566.861 Ayesha Bakshi

Pam Bondi had definitely expressed sympathy for victims of Jeffrey Epstein. She said in her opening remarks that she's sorry for what they have gone through. And she defended what the Justice Department is doing here. The Justice Department has said that it is actively working to shield any victim names that were released from when the files were more fully put out at the end of January.

566.901 - 588.145 Ayesha Bakshi

We know that many victims' names or alleged victims' names were included. The Justice Department has provided an email link where if anyone sees someone who may be a victim in the released files, You can tell the Justice Department about that and they will shield it. But this has been really frustrating for victims. I talked to lawyers for victims ahead of the Justice Department's release.

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