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Trump’s whipsaw strategy with Iran has global leaders worried

09 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What threats did Trump make regarding Iran's infrastructure?

0.706 - 13.72 Donald Trump

We're giving them till tomorrow, 8 o'clock Eastern Time. And after that, they're going to have no bridges. They're going to have no power plants.

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14.712 - 45.428 Cody Godwin

That was President Donald Trump's threat on Monday morning. By Tuesday, the rhetoric had escalated. On Truth Social, Trump posted, quote, end quote. But then as the deadline approached, Trump tried a different tack and announced a two-week ceasefire. Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Excerpt. I'm Cody Godwin in for Dana Taylor. Today is Thursday, April 9th, 2026.

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Chapter 2: How did Trump's rhetoric escalate throughout the week?

45.577 - 60.898 Cody Godwin

Many questions are swirling in the wake of Trump's whipsaw strategy with Iran. Here to help us take a step back and take stock of what may be next, I'm now joined by USA Today White House correspondent Zach Anderson. Zach, it's great to have you back on the excerpt.

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61.339 - 62.02 Zach Anderson

Great to be back.

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62.621 - 71.533 Cody Godwin

There's a lot to dig into here. Let's start with some of the broad strokes. These are complicated negotiations. So who are the players here and what do we know about them so far?

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71.648 - 93.272 Zach Anderson

Yeah, complicated is an understatement. This is a really complex geopolitical issue that the United States is trying to resolve here. Obviously, you have the U.S., you have Iran, you have Israel, but then you have players like Pakistan, the prime minister of Pakistan, who has brokered these negotiations.

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93.632 - 113.397 Zach Anderson

You have a lot of other Middle Eastern countries who are very interested, who have been attacked by Iran in retaliation. You have China. who has played a role in this. U.S. negotiators include, obviously, President Trump at the top. And then you have his Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff. The vice president, J.D. Vance, has been involved.

113.597 - 130.039 Zach Anderson

His son-in-law, Jared Kushner, has been very involved in discussions surrounding Iran. You have Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. And then, you know, on the Iranian side, the foreign minister is the one who has been speaking for Iran publicly.

130.137 - 131.981 Cody Godwin

Has the ceasefire, in fact, been verified?

132.522 - 148.078 Zach Anderson

Here's what we know so far, that President Trump has announced the ceasefire, that Iranian foreign minister said that they had agreed to a ceasefire. We have still seen attacks throughout the Middle East, in Israel.

148.058 - 175.197 Zach Anderson

in other countries there are missiles that are still flying so it's a very tenuous situation right now vice president jd vance described this as a fragile truce it's not clear if maybe there's elements of the iranian regime who have not gotten the word about a ceasefire and then maybe this will die down here but a lot is going to play out over the next few days here and we'll see if this holds

Chapter 3: Who are the key players involved in the Iran negotiations?

300.516 - 325.118 Zach Anderson

But this has become such a huge global issue. About 20 percent of the world's oil passes through this strait and Iran's ability to keep it closed has really roiled the global economy. And it's become a major concern for the U.S. here. And a key part of Trump's exit strategy for this is trying to get this strait reopened. That's what this ceasefire is conditioned on.

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325.679 - 334.767 Cody Godwin

Trump has also suggested that the U.S. get in on any toll charges that Iran imposes on the strait. This is again from Monday's press conference. Let's give it a listen.

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335.523 - 347.727 Donald Trump

Us charging tolls? The President What about us charging tolls? The Press Is that something you're considering? The President I'd rather do that than let them have them running. Why shouldn't we? We're the winner. We won. Okay?

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348.196 - 352.243 Cody Godwin

Has there been any further discussion of this possibility? Is there any precedent for it?

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352.744 - 371.318 Zach Anderson

So Trump discussed this in an interview with ABC, and then White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt answered some questions about it in a press briefing. What Trump told ABC is that the U.S. was considering a joint venture with Iran over the Strait when he was asked about

371.298 - 396.9 Zach Anderson

tolling but then caroline levitt was asked about this and and she said that the u.s wants the straight to be reopened without any tolls that for there to be free passage through the straight which is what the the condition was before the war ships were able to pass freely through this so iran charging a toll to have ships pass through the straight seems very problematic you know that money

396.88 - 410.617 Zach Anderson

would go to Iran, which could then be used for them to potentially rebuild their military or other things. So the tolling issue is controversial, and it's going to be a major point of discussion going forward.

411.038 - 418.467 Cody Godwin

Trump has been claiming this week that we've won. All military objectives have been achieved. Has the U.S. met all of its objectives?

418.818 - 446.612 Zach Anderson

So the US, when this war started, they talked about destroying Iran's ballistic missile capacity. They talked about destroying Iran's Navy, basically completely leveling their military capabilities. They also talked about preventing Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. The first of those two things, there certainly has been some progress by the US on those And, you know, U.S.

Chapter 4: Has the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran been verified?

582.915 - 583.456 Unknown

No, not at all.

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583.476 - 584.318 Cody Godwin

No, no.

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584.578 - 585.681 Donald Trump

I hope I don't have to do it.

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586.382 - 587.925 Cody Godwin

What are the experts saying here?

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588.648 - 598.477 Zach Anderson

Well, Trump himself has really dismissed this or deflected on this. And the US military and US officials say that they don't target civilians.

598.537 - 617.473 Zach Anderson

But when you're talking about going after a country's bridges, its power plants, its infrastructure like that, there are a lot of concerns among international humanitarian groups, legal experts, that that could severely impact the civilian population in Iran and could be considered a war crime.

617.825 - 635.209 Cody Godwin

Trump's escalation in rhetoric got the notice of many world leaders this week, including Pope Leo, who called Trump's threats, quote, truly unacceptable, end quote. We also heard from some members of his own party who were calling for Trump to be removed from the presidency via the 25th Amendment. What happened there?

635.29 - 659.104 Zach Anderson

Yeah, so Trump really, really dialed up the intensity of what he's talking about here. You know, this is not something that we've heard from an American president in modern times where you're talking about wiping out an entire civilization. It was really stark and dire rhetoric that he used. And a lot of people across the aisle, Republicans and Democrats, raised concerns.

659.084 - 682.813 Zach Anderson

um really significant concerns about this you saw in the president's own party people like alaska senator lisa murkowski saying this is not how the us should be presenting itself we're losing moral standing by talking like this and wiping out an entire civilization you know she's a more moderate republican but you also saw people like

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