The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)

B2B Doesn't Have to Be Boring with Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist at Gong

14 Apr 2025

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#237: Strategy | Udi Ledergor (former CMO, now Chief Evangelist at Gong) helped turn Gong into one of B2B’s most iconic brands—and now he’s sharing how they scaled it to a multi-billion dollar valuation. In this episode, Dave sits down with Udi to unpack lessons from building Gong’s category, brand, and marketing engine (and why B2B marketing needs way more courage). You’ll learn:Lessons from building Gong from 0 to $100M in revenueHow to make B2B marketing not boringHow to measure and justify brand investments in marketingWhy you need to be more courageous with your marketingUdi also shares stories from his new book Courageous Marketing, featuring specific plays and strategies any B2B marketer can steal.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Udi (08:07) - – Early career lessons and building a marketing role from scratch (11:07) - – How Gong achieved early product-market fit (15:07) - – The importance of picking the right company and founder (17:07) - – Why Gong’s focus, clarity, and positioning stood out from day one (19:17) - – Why Udi wrote Courageous Marketing and what it’s about (20:07) - – What “courageous marketing” actually means (23:07) - – Defining brand personality before visual identity (27:33) - – Campaign breakdown: Times Square billboards, employee spotlights, and perception hacks (30:53) - – The “punching above your weight” formula for early-stage brands (34:23) - – How to measure soft ROI and prove brand impact (37:53) - – Super Bowl ad, Michael Lewis podcast, and tying brand to pipeline (42:38) - – How to budget for experiments and get CFO/CEO buy-in (43:53) - – Building a courageous team: culture, process, and psychological safety (46:53) - – Gong Labs: Turning product data into content with staying power (49:53) - – Product + marketing alignment: the real unlock (51:23) - – Where AI fits in the future of courageous marketing (53:43) - – Udi’s book Courageous Marketing (and why you should go read it) Join 50,000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today’s episode is brought to you by Paramark.It’s November. 2026 planning is already here. And the stuff you’re doing right now will decide how next year plays out. But here’s the problem: most teams are still planning next year's marketing strategy based on the WRONG DATA because of broken attribution and a misleading gut feel. And you can’t make smart budget calls if you’re just guessing what’s working, what’s not, and where to put your next dollar.That’s where Paramark comes in. They help you replace the guesswork with actual insight backed by $2 billion in analyzed marketing data. They’ve figured out what actually drives incremental growth across every channel including LinkedIn, Meta, TikTok, Google, CTV, even OOH.And right now, they’re offering a private 1:1 consultation with their CEO and CMO, Pranav and Sam, who have led marketing teams at companies like Dropbox, Adobe, Microsoft, and Shutterfly. In this 45-minute strategy session, they’ll help you measure the real impact of every marketing dollar, pull insights from your current media mix, and design a 2026 roadmap that’s rooted in data, not gut.This is a heck of an offer. And it’s real. And will go fast. So if you want to future-proof your marketing strategy for 2026, don’t miss out on this offer.Grab your spot at paramark.com/brand-consult.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

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The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)

B2B Doesn't Have to Be Boring with Udi Ledergor, Chief Evangelist at Gong

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13:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

10:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

12:00H | 20 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

2ª PARTE | 06 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 22 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 04 MAR 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

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