Is "socialism" still scaring voters away?
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find Out podcast. Eventually, you'll have the full crew here. Rich is late, per usual. We have Zach and Luke. And we have a very, very exciting guest that I think you all are going to enjoy today. And even if you don't know his name, you definitely know some of the work that he has done over his illustrious career, which is the first time I think I've used illustrious on this show. We have David Fenton with us, who is a longtime... I think you referred to yourself when we met as a progressive provocateur.
Agitator.
Well, I'm a provocateur too. Okay. Well, both of those things. So one started Fenton Communications, which is a very well-known and very big progressive agency and has also done things like work with john and yoko uh bruce springsteen on the no nukes concert the no fracking stuff with yoko and uh and sean ono lennon in 2013 and so ladies and he also has a book that i have right here called the activist media handbook which has a lot of great information on how to talk about progressive issues and how to make sure that progressives win so david fenton welcome to the find out podcast good great to be here what are we going to find out Oh, we're going to find out. Well, we're going to pepper you with questions.
Actually, one of the things I want to talk to you about, and I apologize that we didn't bring it up, but I didn't know it was going to happen, was last night in New York in particular, three Democratic socialists ousted, well, two ousted incumbents, and one took an open seat that was held by what I would argue is probably more of a mainstream candidate. Brad Lander beat Dan Goldman in New York 10. my old district uh there were a couple other races as well i just want to get your initial reactions to what we saw last night because we're hearing people saying this is anti-semitism coming out or this is like socialism and it's going to destroy the country i assume you have a different perspective i think it's terrific hooray that the establishment's getting overthrown it's a failure
It hasn't worked. The sclerotic parts of the Democratic Party, which isn't very democratic, it's, I'm afraid, out of touch with the people. It's not helping us. So bravo to Zoran and AOC and DSA for running candidates that have authentic public appeal. I think we're gonna see a lot more of this. And by the way, as a student of language, I'm amazed that they're doing so well while calling themselves socialists. I mean, it's probably too late, but I wish they'd changed their name because basic framing, right? The brain has circuitry. And when you say the word socialist to most people, it's a negative. So a lot of us think that if Bernie hadn't called himself a socialist, he would have won. But we need democratic socialism.
I'm just not sure we should call it that. What would you call it?
Do you have a thought?
Well, I like the term economic democracy. There should be checks and balances on all kinds of power, not only on political power. We have to have checks and balances on excessive corporate power, or we're going to have increasing feudalism. That's the direction we're heading, is a revival of feudalism. You know, the Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis said very epithelially once, you can have a democracy— or you can have great concentrations of wealth, but you can't have both. And we're seeing that play out in real time, not for the first time. So, you know, history is this pendulum of excessive concentrations of wealth, followed by rebellion that redistributed and then excessive concentrations of wealth.
So I think the rebellion is starting.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–10:09
2
How did David Fenton explain the recent New York DSA upset and what does it signal?
10:09–14:22
3
Why does Fenton say ‘socialism’ scares voters despite support for Social Security and Medicare?
14:22–28:22
4
How can climate messaging be reframed to connect with everyday voters?
28:22–54:37
5
What tactics won the New York fracking ban and what lessons apply today?
54:37–55:11