Fresh off sitting down with legendary progressive communications strategist David Fenton, the crew digs into what his decades of experience reveal about the Democrats' messaging problem. Why do principled, smart politicians turn into hollow talking-point machines the second a camera turns on? The guys argue it's not a DSA takeover sweeping the party — it's an authenticity crisis. Voters don't necessarily want further left; they want people who clearly believe what's coming out of their mouths and are willing to fight, whether that's Mamdani in New York or Brad Lander getting arrested at an ICE facility. From there it's a wide-ranging conversation: why "socialism" became a dirty word despite everyone loving Social Security, Medicare, and the FDIC; where Bernie actually lost voters (hint: it wasn't the policy); and why running a Mamdani in Iowa would be political suicide. Plus, Luke recounts his live-stream debates with MAGA viewers — the guy whose wife voted Harris, the "traditional values" defense that falls apart on contact, and whether you can ever actually change a mind in real time. The episode wraps with the crew cooking up a "pick your fighter" live debate series where viewers choose which host to take on. For more information about David's book and podcast, visit davidfentonactivist.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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