This week Jeremy interviews Kris Esfandiari of King Woman During this episode the two discuss Her first shows back, the geography of her projects, moving to Brooklyn, NY, finding secular music in a strict household as a kid, the influence DMX had on her, her first guitar and how quickly she started making songs, Luigis in Sacramento, intense stage fright, first recording experiences, collaborations, Ethel Cain, how she joined Whirr and toured with Title Fight, how a psychic told her about future projects, making music as therapy, how success being measured by numbers and not expression, the release of Celestial Blues, making the music video for Morning Star, our mutual love for Spiritual Cramp and so much more! Discuss this episode with Jeremy and other listeners: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thefirsteverpodcast Twitter - https://www.twitter.com/thefirsteverpod Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thefirsteverpatreon

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