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The Five

Some Border Patrol Agents Leaving MN Tomorrow

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

4.823 - 30.097 Dana Perino

Hello, everyone. I'm Dana, along Perino, that would be. Kaylee McEnany, Jessica Tarlow, Jesse Waters, and Joey Jones are here today. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five. And we have breaking news out of Minnesota. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino and some, but not all, of his agents are leaving Minneapolis as soon as tomorrow.

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30.498 - 47.082 Dana Perino

This comes as Tom Homan makes his way to the state. And we are going to have much more on that in just a moment. America getting walloped as a historic and deadly winter storm steamrolls across the country. Let's go to Fox Weather's Kiana Lewis with an update on where we stand now. I know a lot of flights are canceled.

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48.412 - 58.283 Kiana Lewis

Oh, a lot of flights are canceled. Good afternoon to you all there at the five. This is a look at how the power outages have been shaping up so far today. That's one of the other problems that we've seen out of this massive storm.

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58.303 - 74.863 Kiana Lewis

More than 600,000 power outages at the moment in Tennessee actually top in that list right now because they've seen a lot of the ice concerns with some of these ice totals coming in over an inch in some places. So that's one of the big issues that we've been watching kind of play out there. across Tennessee.

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75.123 - 91.259 Kiana Lewis

You'll also notice that as we head into the next couple of days or so, cold temperatures are going to be the big issue across parts of the South. Tennessee back towards Mississippi into Louisiana, as well as even back towards, say, Georgia. could see some of these cold temperatures take place too.

Chapter 2: What breaking news is reported from Minnesota regarding Border Patrol?

91.279 - 107.072 Kiana Lewis

So that's going to be one of the other issues that we watch play out. We have some record cold air that's going to come moving in over the next couple of days. And that beyond that, we are going to be watching for an opportunity of these cold temperatures to continue to take shape as we head into the middle of the week.

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107.052 - 123.475 Kiana Lewis

Diving back into those cold temperatures, we have more than 150 million Americans that are under some type of alert. The reason being is that these temperatures are going to drop to the teens and they will feel like single digits heading into tomorrow morning. So yet another cold morning ahead of us. Dallas, here's a look at your temperatures going through the weekend.

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123.495 - 127.421 Kiana Lewis

We continue with those lows that will also be dropping to the teens there as well.

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128.162 - 147.437 Dana Perino

Kiana, thank you so much. And you all have done great work for everybody. Thank you. And now back to the breaking news out of Minnesota. So multiple federal sources are telling Fox News that Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino and some of his agents are going to leave Minneapolis as soon as tomorrow. This is Tom Homan makes his way to the state that was the president earlier today.

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147.417 - 151.525 Dana Perino

telling everybody that he was going to send Tom home in there.

Chapter 3: How is the winter storm impacting the United States currently?

151.986 - 174.781 Dana Perino

Also, President Trump had a phone call today with Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, calling on the governor to hand over all the criminal illegal aliens. But Walz claims his state honors all immigration detainers. Here's Caroline Levitt. She was in the briefing room earlier today. This tragedy occurred as a result of a deliberate and hostile resistance by Democrat leaders in Minnesota.

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175.203 - 195.764 Dana Perino

Governor Walts and Mayor Frey have shamefully blocked local and state police from cooperating with ICE, actively inhibiting efforts to arrest violent criminals. They have also used their platforms to encourage left-wing agitators to stalk, record, confront, and obstruct federal officers who are just trying to lawfully perform their duties.

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196.185 - 211.748 Dana Perino

This is precisely what unfolded in Minneapolis on Saturday morning. Obstructing federal law enforcement and inciting violence against officers is wrong and illegal. Just yesterday, Governor Walz compared immigration enforcement in Minnesota to the Holocaust.

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212.774 - 227.121 Unknown

We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota.

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228.198 - 246.662 Dana Perino

So a little hyperbole there. Tomorrow is actually Holocaust Remembrance Day, so who knows what he'll come up with by then. But, Jesse, the president also put out a true social statement saying that they had a good call and that they have some sort of way forward, hopefully, and maybe the Border Patrol leaving, if that happens to turn out to be the case, maybe that's one of the steps forward.

247.165 - 272.959 Dana Perino

I'm very glad Walls called the White House and they're both using the same word, which is cooperation. And that's all we've ever asked for. Hopefully we can just dial things back. We can get some cooperation and people aren't needing to get hurt. He's not telling the truth, though, about the state. State corrections only cooperates after an illegal has been convicted and served their sentence.

272.979 - 297.025 Dana Perino

The city jails and the county jails do not cooperate, and they release dangerous illegal criminals into the streets, and that's why ICE is having to conduct these dangerous manhunts. But both sides need to change tactics. The governor of Minnesota is in open rebellion. He has called ICE agents Nazis. He's told the people to get in their face and to kick them out of the state.

297.726 - 320.968 Dana Perino

And now it's like a low-level insurgency. There's very sophisticated communication tactics. There's like food drops. There's supply chains. It's crazy. They have stormed into churches. They have broken into hotels. They've looted cars. They've lit fires. They've kicked. They've bit off fingers. Of federal immigration police. So it's out of control.

321.068 - 347.844 Dana Perino

And now they're aiding and abetting dangerous foreign nationals who are fugitives from justice. And what ICE needs to do in order to change tactics is stick and move. You're sitting ducks for six weeks and you have no backup from feds and you have no backup from the locals. And you've announced to the entire country that you are in Minneapolis. You don't need to do that.

Chapter 4: What actions did President Trump take in response to the situation in Minnesota?

530.995 - 535.941 Dana Perino

You've clearly arrived at a conclusion before an investigation. Based on watching all of the video and the president.

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535.981 - 538.244 Kiana Lewis

Have you seen the body cam video? I was unaware you had. You know what?

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538.264 - 557.328 Dana Perino

It's going to exonerate all the agents. You're completely right. Stephen Miller saying an assassin tried to murder federal agents. And this is your response. And J.D. Vance retweeting it says something about what where this administration is and how they're considering it before and after the murder of Alex Preddy. And this will go down in history as a turning point for this.

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557.348 - 575.124 Dana Perino

Greg Bovino wouldn't be leaving tomorrow. if an innocent person wasn't killed. And the double standards that are being employed for how you have to behave versus how these agents have to behave is mind boggling to me. Kyle Rittenhouse was a conservative hero, right? For walking into a protest, actually brandishing a weapon.

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575.425 - 596.929 Dana Perino

But this guy who had a legal permit to carry and already had his gun removed to some people, I guess, as some sort of instigator when he was actually going to help a woman who had been pushed down and tear gassed by ICE. We have the right to protest. that should be upheld and respected, and it is not being. Jessica, did you call for an investigation after Renee Goode? You did.

597.61 - 598.431 Kiana Lewis

Well, yeah.

598.531 - 608.707 Dana Perino

So are you calling for an investigation now, or are you just stating a conclusion? Because it seems like you've arrived at a conclusion before an investigation. I'm saying that Jesse said this is divisive and it's partisan, and it's not.

608.927 - 610.289 Joey Jones

I don't know.

610.369 - 614.957 Dana Perino

I think it is irresponsible to call someone a domestic terrorism before you have the facts. So you agree with me.

Chapter 5: How are local leaders in Minnesota responding to federal immigration enforcement?

659.74 - 676.765 Dana Perino

We don't know the facts. A responsible thing is an investigation. President Trump has been the most responsible person in all of this. Today, Caroline was asked, what do you say when Kristi Noem says there was maximum damage? And they said Trump wants an investigation and to let the facts lead. What do you think about calling them domestic terrorists?

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676.785 - 696.271 Dana Perino

I have not heard Donald J. Trump characterize Alex Pretty that way. Donald Trump is responsible. You know who's not? Walls. I was on the airwave when this broke. 11.03 a.m., the White House called Walls. They were trying to defuse this. Walls comes out and says thousands of violent, untrained officers are out in Minnesota. One responsible party, the president.

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696.291 - 705.422 Dana Perino

Did those underneath him act irresponsibly? Yes. But Walls and Donald Trump don't even put them in the same camp. Donald Trump's leading. You are no different, I'm sorry, than Kristi Noem.

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706.243 - 724.216 Dana Perino

Real quick, as the one person who carries a gun just about every single day I'm not in this city, and the one person that's been in a similar situation holding a gun while people are rioting, and perhaps the one person who understands... I don't want to say the one, but someone here who understands this a little bit because I've been in that situation. There's a couple of things.

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724.256 - 727.945 Dana Perino

Number one, the Second Amendment is a right. I'm not a Second Amendment absolutist.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the recent violence against federal officers?

728.326 - 743.653 Dana Perino

You have the right to carry a weapon to defend yourself, not the privilege. It is a right. Those rights come with restrictions. I think you would understand that more than anyone at this table. One of those restrictions is you have to have your ID and your permit on you. We don't know. Current reports are he didn't have either one of those on, at which point he's not carrying legally.

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744.093 - 759.57 Dana Perino

But number two, even beyond that, with the right to carry a firearm comes a responsibility to do it correctly and to do it with foresight and to do it understanding the situation you're walking into and what could happen once you get there. Just about every state offers a class on that, and if you carry your firearm, you should take that class.

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759.61 - 778.15 Dana Perino

And if your state charges you for it, you should go protest for that class to be taxpayer-funded because it is a right. Right. So that's important. We can talk about policy all day long. There's only one person in this world that could have absolutely prevented Alex Pretty from getting shot that day, and it's Alex Pretty. That doesn't mean I think he should have been shot.

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778.691 - 793.407 Dana Perino

I don't think it was necessary whatsoever to shoot Alex Pretty to save a life. But I get to watch that incident from behind Alex Pretty, not as one of the arresting officers and not as potentially the person that I believe from looking at the video did shoot him. Why does he have 10 rounds in him?

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793.427 - 808.629 Dana Perino

Because if you have to shoot anybody once, you better shoot them enough to kill them, because if you're shooting somebody, you think they're trying to kill you. Every police officer in this country is taught that. If you want to change that, go lobby to have it changed. Why was he shot? He was shot because of the reasonableness clause, the reasonableness doctrine.

808.649 - 827.773 Dana Perino

The Supreme Court decided this, which is the fact that if you are a police officer conducting police work, and it's explicitly outlined, someone has resisted arrest, violently or not, disobeyed orders and shown the means to harm you, then you have the ability to protect yourself. Now, do I think he should have been shot?

827.793 - 846.576 Dana Perino

No, because I see 10 things that happened before that happened that could have been handled differently. But what I don't see are the 10 minutes before that happened. You call him a protester. I call him an agitator. He showed up with a cell phone. He showed up in the middle of the street in the middle of an operation. That's common sense. I don't care what your passions are.

846.917 - 853.629 Dana Perino

To carry a weapon on your person and to get in the middle of a police operation, whether you believe it or not, that is lawful 100%.

854.39 - 868.776 Dana Perino

Another way it could have been prevented is if there was a police cordon from Minneapolis Police Department stopping people from, like Alex Pretty, from getting in the middle of the operation rather than holding a sign and speaking loudly and proudly from 100 feet away. That is the end of the story.

Chapter 7: What strategies are suggested for ICE operations in Minnesota?

1228.16 - 1239.992 Dana Perino

That's why it's so violent. Jessica, what is it exactly that Democrats want in order to pass this bill? Do they want ICE defunded? They want a bill without any ICE funding at all? What is it that they want?

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1240.276 - 1258.041 Dana Perino

Well, they want and I mean, it's a lot of minutiae, but they want it split up in the mini bus bill put into essentially five separate sections so that you could actually get your hands on money that would be going towards ICE specifically versus other parts of DHS that you do want funded because you want FEMA funded. And you want TSA funded.

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1258.241 - 1280.423 Dana Perino

And in some cases, you want Customs and Border Patrol funded. I don't think the Democrats will be out alone on this. I mean, Rand Paul pointed out, as Dana did as well, that a lot of the ICE funding has already gone through. But there are a lot of Republicans who are very upset with the way ICE is doing their job. Rand Paul has called for big investigations into this.

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1280.523 - 1284.787 Dana Perino

Kristi Noem will be testifying before the judiciary, I think, on March 3rd.

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1284.987 - 1285.588 Kiana Lewis

Are they going to shut down?

1285.568 - 1299.024 Dana Perino

the government for five weeks? No, no, no. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying this idea that it's only Democrats that are upset about this is preposterous. And Jesse says, you know, you're getting violent because you're so upset that we're picking up violent criminals. There will be a full investigation. Kayleigh is right about that.

1299.104 - 1315.807 Dana Perino

But what people saw this weekend with Alex Preddy wasn't picking up a violent criminal. That's not what they saw with Rene Good. That's not what they've seen with over saying that the operation to seize this guy from Ecuador wanted for battery. You're saying that's not true that the You're saying that's not the operation that they were conducting?

1315.907 - 1337.057 Dana Perino

The people who we are watching in ICE are either untrained to be doing this job, which is what Brian O'Hara, the Minneapolis police chief... I'm talking about Rene Good for the first one. Okay, the guy had been in eight years in ICE. Well... There is a guy who was not armed and was down on his knees. That's what we do know from looking at the video footage right now.

1337.077 - 1356.273 Dana Perino

You have 46 percent of Americans that are saying to abolish ICE. That's gone up 20 points since June alone. You have stories like Target employees who are American citizens getting picked up while they're at work. Like, it's not what you're saying that it is. If they were all bad hombres, people would be sitting back and okay with it. This could be ended today.

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