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The Game with Alex Hormozi

How To Get Customers So Fast It Feels ILLEGAL | Ep 814

Thu, 26 Dec 2024

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Welcome to The Game w/ Alex Hormozi, hosted by entrepreneur, founder, investor, author, public speaker, and content creator Alex Hormozi. On this podcast you’ll hear how to get more customers, make more profit per customer, how to keep them longer, and the many failures and lessons Alex has learned and will learn on his path from $100M to $1B in net worth.Wanna scale your business? Click here.Follow Alex Hormozi’s Socials:LinkedIn  | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube  | Twitter | Acquisition Mentioned in this episode:Get access to the free $100M Scaling Roadmap at www.acquisition.com/roadmap

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Chapter 1: What are the core skills every founder needs?

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There are a few things that every founder has to learn at a basic level. You have to know the core business. You have to know how to get customers. You have to know how to deliver customers. Just about everything else you can outsource, but those two things are core to every business. And so if you don't know how to get new customers, you need to fix that. Wanna hear something insane?

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Every six seconds, acquisition.com portfolio companies get a new lead. So I'm gonna show you how to get new customers so fast it feels illegal. And just while I was saying that, we got one lead in the first second, one at second six, a third at second 12, and we'll get one in just right now. And that's exactly what I'm gonna show you how to do.

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So number one, every business wants more leads, but none of them want to give good stuff away for free. And so my favorite marketing strategy for getting tons of leads is step one, look at what other people are charging for. Step two, look at the hard costs of what it would cost for you to deliver it. Step three, give that thing away for free. Step four, see how many leads you get.

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Step five, see how many you convert. and then the hard cost divided by the percentage conversion equals how much it costs to get a customer. Don't worry, I'll walk you through the math. So let's say that you have a competitor who's willing to do some sort of SEO service, whatever. Now, SEO services will typically have multiple components to it.

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And most businesses that either have products or services have many things that if you were to go zoom in on it, you could do for somebody. You could compress files on someone's page to increase the page lead time. You could change headlines around. You could redesign it. You could fix the metadata so that it ranks differently. Whatever. You could create link backs.

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There's a number of different things that you could do. And so the question is, how many hours, let's say, would it take me to add 20 backlinks from someone else's site to the prospect's site? Okay, well maybe that would take me, I don't know, let's call it an hour. Now I think it would take less than that, but let's just say it's an hour.

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And let's say that it's an hour of one of your employees' time and you pay them $25 for that work. Okay. The question is, if you're trying to just give away an assessment or something like that for free, which is what everyone else gives away, not that many people would be interested.

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And so, let's say that you spent $100 to get leads with your old way, and then you add this new thing that you give away for free that costs you $25, but all of a sudden, you get three times the amount of people who want that free thing per dollar of advertising, meaning that your new lead cost is $33. But for each one of those $33 people, we now have to give a $25 thing away.

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But at the end of the day, we still net less cost per lead from $100 to $58. And so fundamentally, this is the 101 of how giving stuff away works. Now the 201 version of this is that you want to only give the $25 thing away, or $100 thing, or $1,000 thing, depending on the size of the ticket of the thing you sell. to qualified customers.

Chapter 2: How can you quickly generate leads for your business?

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Then you say, okay, well, I'll go from five people to 20 people and that should 4x the size of the business. And then of course you find out quickly that when you 4x headcount, you don't necessarily 4x the business. And he said, that's because most people are ammunition. And so you still only have one barrel. There's only one cannon that's doing the firing. We just added potential here.

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He said, but instead what you need to find is more barrels. Because if you can double the barrels, you can double the rate output. And so I see barrels, as Keith does, as incredibly rare. But they are the ones who move the needle.

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And so I was explaining to this founder, and this is something that I've, it's a mistake that I've made many times in my life and it's one that's hard to not make because as things grow, more things come up and you get further away, but it's like you have to make sure that you hold onto the things that matter most. Like Mr. Beast is still involved in the creation of his videos.

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Steve Jobs still approved every final ad that went out for Apple, or at least so legend says. And so I think that the traditional setup is for the most part made by corporates who aren't founders, who aren't driving output. They're just like meeting quarterly earnings. They're not really changing the world. And so I have put my big kind of words on this. Fewer, better.

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And what that means is that you're going to have to back up your investment in talent with finances. And so what I mean by that is if you were to build a department and say, OK, I need to hire a few people for $75,000 a year. OK, just use it as simple math. Well, those may be A players, B players, C players, who knows?

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But an A player may be able to do quite literally five times, 10 times the output, 25 times the output of a B player. And so marketing is one of these roles that has tremendous leverage. And so in thinking about this, I think I've changed the way that I see building marketing departments

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phenomenally, which is the most similar role in a business that I can think of that we have in the portfolio is actually a developer. So hear me out. Developers typically have technical career paths, which means that you can be a level one, level two, level three, level four, level five, all the way up. And as they go up, they make more money.

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And the reason for that is because one amazing developer can make something that millions of people see. So one of the old legends of Google is that there's a particularly amazing coder. They had bought some old version of Google Maps as an acquisition. They kept trying to deal with the code. And then one really high leverage coder remade the entire product over a weekend.

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And then that is ultimately what became the code base that we still use today as Google Maps. And so one man made that. That's how much skill he was able to bring to the table. Now, here's where it makes sense from a business perspective. that one guy, maybe you have to pay him 10 times more than a traditional coder.

Chapter 3: What marketing strategy should you use to attract customers?

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Meaning, instead of saying, okay, we're just gonna do 10% more, we're gonna do 10% better, we're gonna do 20% better, when you start with the

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in mind from a what would it take for us to be number one we assume the goal outcome and the crazy thing about this question is that you might be one one hundredth the size of the number one player in the market but it assumes what it would take to be a hundred times bigger and then it gets reverse engineered into the present and so what happens oftentimes when I ask this question is they usually state one or two key big things that would have to happen for the business to be number one and then I ask

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what would it cost for us to do that? Do we have the resources in order to make that happen? And more times than not, we actually have the resources to make that happen. Then the next actual question is, then why are we not putting every one of the resources we have right now towards making that come true, rather than just continuing on the path that we're on?

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And so this is an order of magnitude increase in terms of business growth and ultimately what generates the most leads and customers. And so when I asked myself this question years ago, it was what would it take for me to be the number one business channel? What would it take for that to happen?

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The question beyond that was, what would it take for us to be able to have one of the best investment firms in the world? And I was like, well, I would have to have many, many, many more years of experience. I was like, I don't know if I can do that. I was like, okay, that would be harder, that would be, I can't make time happen faster. What else would it take?

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And so then it came to the number one, so I'm gonna cut from there. So what would it, so then I followed with, okay, so for me to be the best investor, then what I would want is the most deal flow. So what are the different ways of creating deal flow? One of them is you can just go to broker networks. So you go to investment bankers, you get them to send you deals, and then you bid on those deals.

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But if I wanna be the best investor in the world, then I need deals that only come to me. I was like, okay, well thankfully, I'm pretty good at marketing. And so I was like, why don't I, what would have to be true for me to get lots of inbound deal flow? And I was like, okay, well probably building a massive brand around business.

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And so then the question was, how do I build the number one brand in business online? And so, it's these series of questions that I asked and then it was, okay, well, I should probably start making content around this.

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And I should probably write a book or something that would do really well that is in the business space that business owners would read and then think, wow, this guy knows what he's talking about.

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