Chapter 1: What was Joyce Meyer's childhood like?
Could we unpack what your childhood was like? I kind of danced around it because I don't know how comfortable you are about speaking about your life.
I came from a very difficult background, sexual abuse from my father. And so I felt really, really bad about myself. Just lived with condemnation all the time. Felt like God was mad at me all the time.
Chapter 2: How did Joyce overcome feelings of condemnation?
My mom, she knew what he was doing. I just kept praying for him to be saved. And one morning he was crying. He said, I just want to apologize to you for what I did to you when you were a little girl. So we asked him, I said, do you want to give your life to the Lord? And he said, yes. And I thought I was buying a house and a car, but actually I was buying a soul.
What's up, guys? Welcome back to The George Jango Show. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm quite nervous. My tongue has been tied up. And here's the reason why. I've interviewed so many people I look up to and learn from. But it's so funny. I can't even look at you without smiling. Because my mom introduced me to Christ through you. And so when I look at you, I just remember...
Chapter 3: What role did prayer play in Joyce's healing journey?
all the times in my life where I was so lost or confused and I just didn't know how to put my relationship with God to work. And so when anybody ever comes up to me and goes, oh, you're the reason why I know Jesus, I always tell them like, oh, I'm just a messenger. that's all God, and I truly mean this when I say this, God used you to open up my heart to him.
So when I'm with you, I already get so emotional. Does that ever get weird that people come up to you and be like, Joyce, can I talk to you for a second?
I'm a little bit used to it. I do good with it unless, I had a situation where I was in a drugstore and seven rather large ladies Very emotional ladies approached me at one time and they were screaming and yelling and falling out in the spirit.
Chapter 4: How can one move from being a victim to finding purpose?
And I'm like, get me out of here. I don't like to make a scene.
Yes. Before we get started, we just got into a church called Dream City Church. Oh, yeah. Where at? In Phoenix, Arizona.
That's where I'm going this weekend.
I know. Which, by the way, is hilarious because like you're just coming and we just like came from there.
uh tommy barnett is somebody that you learn from or he's he's my our pastor we ask him to be our pastor just because he is so loving and wise and i just i love the way he treats people he's just so kind and good to everybody and i like to be around people that really love people yeah he really is i don't like to be around people that
act one way on the platform and then another way when you see him in person. And he's very encouraging. I mean, every message I ever preach at his church, it's the best he's ever heard. I'm like, come on, everyone can't be the best. Oh, yeah, they just get better and better. But we're involved with them in a project that we're doing in Utah.
bought an 800 acre ranch there and we're going to turn it into a uh a dream center for girls that have been trafficked with angel yeah get them out with angel and work with her and uh we're really excited about that it's we've got a dental bus running out of there we're gonna have a medical bus running out of there and uh there's a lot of good things are going to happen there
the work you guys are doing is amazing how did you get introduced to that situation and want to be a part of it well we've known tommy for a long time and we had a dream center here in st louis for about 20 years we just last year shut it down and because the neighborhood we were in was just really going down it was almost getting dangerous and uh
I knew from the beginning when I started teaching, and I don't even really know how I knew, except for the Holy Spirit put it in my heart, that I didn't want to preach the gospel unless I also helped the poor and the needy. They go together. I think if you're going to just preach but not do, then... Better check yourself out a little bit.
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Chapter 5: How can you heal a broken family?
I think you're probably doing exactly what you need to be doing. And you're hungry. You want to do what's right. And anybody who really wants to do what's right, God will protect you and you'll end up doing what's right. And once again, I just want to encourage you, don't be so afraid all the time you're going to do the wrong thing.
Yeah, praise God. You said something beautiful. You said that the completion of love is loving yourself. And we grew up in a generation where it's either they're loving themselves way too much in the wrong way, or they don't love themselves at all. Right. I found myself to... I realized this. I was writing in my journal.
I told Bell, I said, being a good person when you're good is not you being a good person. Being a good person when you're down and out is when you're a good person. And I realized that I am a piece of crap when I'm angry or hungry or frustrated. I could turn on a dime. If somebody...
really pushes me in that direction my old nature comes out really really quickly um that old man that's dead has a resurrection right away yeah what's up with that what is up with that i thought he was dead this guy's coming back more than lazarus you have to remind him yeah you're dead you have no authority over me anymore i actually i have a fun story i'd like to tell you about um i went to la i was uh interning in a recording studio
And I find out that this place is haunted. Do you know how I find out this place is haunted? It's 3 o'clock in the morning. I'm sitting on the thing. I'm waiting. This guy's recording something for the TV shows. I think it was Glee. And I'm not going to mention the studio just in case. Out of respect. Or I'll beep it out. Big studio. Like all these artists were in there. And...
They asked me to go, hey, could you do the night shift? Nobody wants to do it. And I'm like, yeah, like extra cookies out here. And I'm like, I'll do it. Grinding. The guy's in the studio. And all of a sudden I'm hearing kids running upstairs, playing around.
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Chapter 6: What does forgiveness look like in practice?
And I'm like, whose kids are playing at three o'clock in the morning? So he comes out for a smoke break. And as he was walking out, I go, hey, buddy, uh, whose kids are upstairs? And he just drops his cigarette and he looks at me and goes, what are you talking about? And I said, yeah, I hear kids upstairs. And he goes, oh no.
And then he runs into the studio, calls the guy, he starts shutting down his things. So I walk in, I'm like, why are you freaking out? And he goes, dude, there's no kids upstairs. He goes, you heard the ghosts. And I was like, the ghost? And he goes, yeah, you heard ghosts. I was like, what are you talking about? He goes, why do you think upstairs is completely vacant?
Like it's, nobody's up there. He's like, cause there's ghosts. And I was like, this guy's cracked out. He's crazy. So I go to the end of the stairs to look up and he's with me. And then we hear the pool table break. Now this is like undeniable.
Chapter 7: How does Joyce Meyer define her relationship with God?
We're two men. We heard it. We run back in the room. The pool table is completely fine, but the chandelier is just going back and forth. I'm not a ghost guy. In my brain, I'm like, you're either in hell or you're in heavens. Like there's no like ghosts or anything like that. He goes in the studio, he goes, okay, I have to be here for 20 minutes. Please don't leave me. He goes, just stay here.
So now I have to sit in this dark dungeon of a studio while I just heard kids that are not existent upstairs playing. And so what I did is I played your sermon like really, really loud. And I never heard any other spooky things since. So I always told myself that if I ever see you, you helped me with some supernatural stuff without even being there. And do you believe in ghosts or no?
Chapter 8: What legacy does Joyce Meyer hope to leave behind?
People warned me that I better get ready for anything when I came on here. So you don't believe in ghosts?
I believe that there are evil spirits. Yeah, those kids didn't sound too good. Yeah. Have you ever encountered anything like an exorcism or anything like that? No, not personally. I thought maybe that you were in a third world country and there might be demons and people, like exorcism or stuff like that. Not really?
Well, there are people with demons in other countries, but I'm not... I mean, I've taken authority over demons and told them to come out of people. But I don't have extensive experience with being an exorcist.
So is that stuff still, like, happening nowadays? Like, I know it happens in the New Testament.
Especially in areas where they practice witchcraft and, you know, or they get witchcraft mixed up with the gospel.
Do you ever get worried about it? Or, like, you're just like, no, I'm covered by God. I don't need to worry about it. Yeah, I'm not worried about it. God covers his people.
I believe in the name of Jesus, and that's enough to keep you safe if you believe in it.
Mm-hmm.
Praise God. You had a question?
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