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The George Janko Show

The Real Shawna Interview | EP 142

12 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What led to George's apology to Shawna?

0.031 - 12.491 George Janko

I said, hey, you know, I'm going to have an episode with my wife. Oh, bro, there's no way you're... These are some questions you want to know. So I'm just going to literally... I'm going to read these so I don't miss them. Like you're starting to understand God.

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Chapter 2: How did Shawna's childhood shape her perspective?

12.952 - 18.641 George Janko

And then the devil puts the contract that everybody's like waiting for, for your whole life. That to me was like, could you unpack that feeling?

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19.081 - 24.57 Shauna Lee Janko

I told Andrew, I said, I'm not signing that contract. Because if I sign the contract before I get there, then I'm agreeing to the terms.

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25.111 - 57.747 George Janko

I hate to do this, but I have to ask the deep questions. And I hate to do it, but I have to. What's up guys? My name is George Shanko. I just, I felt like I just intro'd like an old school, like vlog. Hey guys.

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Chapter 3: What challenges did Shawna face in the modeling industry?

58.469 - 78.637 George Janko

Sorry. I'm so glad I don't do that anymore because I'm not going to lie to you. Nothing is more depressing than that. Guys, this podcast is loved by many, but the reason why it's loved by many is because I have this thing where I get on the podcast and I apologize for stupid things. And people are like, wow, he's real. He's real stupid sometimes, but at least he's real.

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79.098 - 84.966 George Janko

And one of the things that I did that was stupid is I said, hey, you know, I'm going to have an episode with my wife and

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84.946 - 87.208 Shauna Lee Janko

Oh, bro, there's no way you're.

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87.228 - 108.091 George Janko

And then and then while I had that episode of my wife, I had the posture of, hey, wife, shut up. Don't speak at all. No, you didn't. Let me talk. You're talking right now. I'm going to need you to stop. Stop it. Thank you. And so, like, I like to do better by making sure my wife speaks. Here's the thing, guys. I didn't mean to.

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Chapter 4: How did divorce influence Shawna's view on love?

108.191 - 127.588 George Janko

And the reason I didn't mean to is because, one, I get excited since I was a kid. It's been a thing, dude. They're like, Hey George, uh, we love you, but shut up. And I've taken it to the next level where I own a podcast and I still talk too much. That's, that's astonishing. That's, that's working real hard. Right?

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Chapter 5: What role does faith play in Shawna's life?

127.648 - 145.645 George Janko

Okay. But Bell, I'm sorry. Please stop. Listen, I'm, I told you this a long time ago. The comments that hurt you are the ones that are true. Those comments hurt me. When I watched it back, it's so cringe to watch it back and then be like, oh, they're right.

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146.146 - 153.647 Shauna Lee Janko

But the thing is that genuinely, I never felt that... I know the episode was supposed to be about me or whatever, but it's like we're...

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153.627 - 177.002 Shauna Lee Janko

having a conversation so i would feel weird if like you didn't like input your own thoughts or feelings or stories like that's that's what i want from you that's what i want from a conversation you know what i mean so i don't i'm flattered that you guys want to hear like you know what i mean like deets and stuff dog they came with questions they literally in the comments were like dude this is great but maybe next time have somebody else interviewed

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176.982 - 199.598 George Janko

dude dude dude listen i've gone through being canceled a lot right and it didn't hurt me when the bobby lee thing happened it didn't hurt me when an impulsive thing happened it only hurts when you read it and you're like they're right and dude they were right bell i i like was here's the thing you fell in love with a man who's very aggressive who takes the front storms it you know what i mean

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200.557 - 220.743 George Janko

And then I just over-talked. So I read their comments. I read their concerns. And today I want to tap back in, apologize to you publicly. Stop. You know what's so funny is that we had this whole thing planned today to talk about some cool things, but we got to run this back. There's no way we can't run this back.

220.763 - 225.409 George Janko

And I knew if I told you we were going to run it back, you'd be like, no, no, please. I'm a little meek woman. No.

Chapter 6: How did Shawna and George navigate their relationship dynamics?

225.429 - 226.831 George Janko

I didn't want to talk about myself.

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227.331 - 227.932 Shauna Lee Janko

How about this?

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228.873 - 247.745 Shauna Lee Janko

We just sprinkle questions for each other. We still talk about the things we want to talk about today, but we can sprinkle in questions. And by the way, I just want to say, I so appreciate everything that you guys had to say. It was so loving and amazing and wonderful. And I really do appreciate it. But I also don't agree with the ones I said that George talked too much. I don't know.

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247.765 - 253.281 Shauna Lee Janko

I thought it was a good podcast and a good back and forth. So. We're not making this all about me, bro.

253.401 - 273.896 George Janko

I think we should, bro. And this is the reason why I didn't want to tell you in the beginning is because you're very, very meek. You're very meek. And by the way, my favorite comments, and there was a lot of them, a lot of them that were like, this is a masterclass on being patient and meek and a godly woman. And they're right, bro. They're right.

274.337 - 276.962 George Janko

I'm glad that happened because that is our life, bro.

Chapter 7: What impact does Shawna's career have on their marriage?

277.022 - 294.229 George Janko

That is our life. I learned a lot more from you being quiet and me watching you work than me actually listening to you talk. And... I'm sorry. And the reason why it frustrated me is because in reality, I listen to you a lot. Like behind cameras, when you speak, I grab all that gold and I run with it.

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294.47 - 319.301 George Janko

So basically what I did is I robbed them from their opportunity to learn from your perspective, to hoard it for myself. And then I had the audacity to be like the Shauna interview. And then one of the comments were like, can't wait till the real Shauna. So, okay, I read some comments and they want to go all the way back. They want to know why you started modeling, how it worked with you.

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319.902 - 333.716 George Janko

No, no, no, listen, this is cool. And then, does this not make you feel comfortable? If you're uncomfortable, we don't have to do this. But I think there's a lot of people- I just want this to be a good episode. Well, it is going to be a good episode. This is literally highly requested. People from around the world are requesting this.

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333.856 - 342.124 Shauna Lee Janko

I feel like I've already talked about myself. You know what I mean? Like, if you have a burning question, fire it off. You know what I'm saying? But only if it's interesting.

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342.323 - 364.99 George Janko

I did a poor job hosting last time. So I'm literally, there's a guy named Carrie W5301. And he says, George, I love you so much. And you mean the world to me. This is great. What about some nice things? And he goes, but dog, these are some questions you want to know. So I'm just going to literally, I'm going to read these so I don't miss them. At what age did she move throughout her childhood?

367.771 - 372.189 Shauna Lee Janko

Okay. Well, what was his handle? W-E-40.

373.113 - 379.834 George Janko

W-E-40. No, that's for a door, dude. That's a great question though.

380.194 - 382.237 Shauna Lee Janko

It is a nice question. I appreciate it.

Chapter 8: What advice does Shawna have for women dating non-believers?

383.238 - 409.334 Shauna Lee Janko

Listen, I moved a lot. When I lived in France, we moved around a lot. We lived in a few different cities. And then the last place that I lived in, I was 10. So I left France when I was 10 years old. And then I was in Cincinnati, Ohio for two months. And then I moved to Canada. And in Canada, I lived in Peterborough and in Ottawa. And then I left Ottawa in 2014 and I arrived to California.

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409.394 - 413.36 Shauna Lee Janko

And then I was in California. Now, you know, I've been in America.

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414.421 - 435.088 George Janko

The next question that they had was like, how did that feel? Like, what was it like adapting to these type of things? Like you went from being a French girl to living in the States in Ohio. And then you went to Canada. What did that do to you as a human being? Was that cool? Were you like annoyed of it? Like how did you adapt to these things?

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436.165 - 453.906 Shauna Lee Janko

I don't know. I think I'm, I don't, because I kind of just adapt. And, you know, there were really big changes. And I think that, thank God, you know, I'm somebody who I think I can like quickly adapt to my environment. But I know for sure, like leaving, leaving France and then getting to Canada, going to a new school.

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454.006 - 464.839 Shauna Lee Janko

And I kind of had to balance because at the time, French was my one and only language. I spoke English with my mom, but I wasn't taking, you know, geography in, did I say wrong? I was.

466.709 - 470.354 George Janko

Don't worry. I was born here and I still fail at this.

470.714 - 487.776 Shauna Lee Janko

Like in English, right? So it was just adapted to the language and to the people. But thank God I went to a school, a French immersion school because obviously Quebec and Canada, they speak French and stuff. So I was able to do half my classes in French and half my classes in English. So it kind of like eased me in, you know.

488.397 - 494.385 Shauna Lee Janko

And then I was super fobs at a really strong accent and I wanted to sound like my peers.

494.846 - 496.648 George Janko

Did you do an example of what you sound like?

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