Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Today, we talked about two things. We talked about what the president is going to talk about tonight, the war in Iran, all of the scary possibilities and also some really positive things. It could be very, very good tonight. And that kind of led into a conversation about how Trump is a wartime president and he is facing a peacetime public crisis. And that doesn't usually work out well.
But let's see what happens tonight. Also, Artemis 2. Artemis 2, if you're an insider, watch for all of the backstage things because I'm going to be streaming a lot today for the insiders. because I'm going to be right there at the launch. We're going to leave in just a couple of minutes, and then we're going to be at the launch no matter what time it takes off.
And we talk about that, what it really, truly means. And we have a guy who was trapped in space for a year. Remember when Biden wouldn't send up anybody to go get him? What was he thinking when he thought, I'm not going to be able to dock or return? Butch Wilmore joins us on today's podcast. Let me tell you about our sponsor. It's the Berna Launcher.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Butch Wilmore face during his time in space?
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Chapter 3: How did Butch Wilmore's faith influence his experience in space?
Don't want the files to drop. No, Sarah. Sarah, no. Stop. Stop. That needs, that is, that deserves a world premiere set up. That is an Eric Swalwell, don't bang, bang, bang, bang song. And it's inappropriate at this moment. We have more important things to do. We'll do that in a second. Also, in about 30 minutes, I'm going to give you an update on what the president is doing today.
Today is an extraordinarily historic day. First time a president has ever sat in the Supreme Court to listen to an argument. Then Artemis. Then at 9 p.m. he's giving what could be a ground-shattering speech. From the Oval Office he is giving an address. Already three prime ministers, or actually two prime ministers and the head of the EU have already said,
prepared their people in pretty disturbing speeches. We'll find out tonight at nine o'clock. It must be really important for the president to speak maybe within an hour, up to three hours after Artemis launches. He's completely destroying the the great PR, if you will, or just the hope that Artemis could give, he's going to follow that.
You'll have about two hours to enjoy that light, and then something big is being announced tonight. We'll see. Because it is Easter week, and I just think there are so many things that are happening that are good. And we have to have faith to get through all of this. I wanted to get Butch Wilmore on. He is a retired NASA astronaut. He was a Navy captain.
He has written a book called Stuck in Space. Do you remember when Boeing...
sent up what was it their their starliner and i remember as he was sitting on the pad and i'm getting ready to watch this thing launch i'm like this is the worst thing i would not get into a boeing boeing starliner because remember it's all the problems that they were having and i'm like boeing you are so screwed if this thing goes up and it can't get back god forbid and they were stuck in space forever and i think it was finally elon musk that went up and said i'll go get him
that must've been terrifying. Butch is the guy who was the pilot at that time. If he wasn't, it was either pilot or the captain, uh, the commander. I, I'm not sure, but, um, he was stuck up there and it's his faith that got him through that. And, uh, Butch is on with us now. Butch, were you the pilot, the commander? What, what position were you in? I'm sorry.
Yeah, Glenn, no problem. It's a blessing to be with you. Thank you for having me on. I was the commander. I was in the left seat. Yeah, I was the one on the controls. Yeah, that was my role.
And when that thing happened, how bad was it? I mean, now we can talk about it because everybody was like, oh, no, it's not so bad. And I'm thinking, no, I think that's really bad.
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Chapter 4: What qualities define a wartime president according to Glenn Beck?
Because I understand what all goes into trying to bound a problem like this and and understand it to where you would crawl back in and attempt to come back to Earth. I know how difficult that would be, even in the moments before docking. So I knew that if we got docked, the chances were slim that we would return on Starliner, even in those moments. Where is Starliner now?
Starliner, it did come back. It did have some problems. We should not have been on it. There are many others that would say it was fine, but it wasn't. We lost a pitch thruster, so we would have been coming back into the atmosphere had we been on it.
Chapter 5: How does President Trump embody the traits of a wartime president?
Zero fault tolerance for maintaining our control of pitch control, so we shouldn't have been on it, and I'm glad we weren't. But it did make it back successfully. That one pitch thruster that remained, it did operate successfully, so it made it back. And now they're refurbishing, going through the whole process of making sure that the thrusters are pristine, are workable.
And trying to get back, it'll be a cargo spacecraft initially, if and when it does fly again, and then we'll see if they ever put people on it again.
So, you know, the reason why they put people like you, test pilots and people with vast experience up in a space and not people like me is because I would have been screaming, we're all going to die. Was there a moment at all that you thought, we're not coming home?
Well, you mentioned it at the very beginning there, Glenn. You said the faith. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I have eternal hope. There's nothing that can outdo or overshadow that. So in all situations, that brings comfort and contentment, regardless if you are facing death. And did death go through my mind? Absolutely it did, because the control was so difficult.
And the fact that not knowing if we could eventually get back, or I did not get back, but get docked to station, not understanding that in the moment. Surely that went through my mind. But even in that, I mean, my sins are forgiven. Jesus Christ paid the price for my sins on the cross. He incurred the wrath of God for my sins on the cross.
And therefore, I mean, I believe that, and He has transformed me. He has forgiven me. Because of that, I have eternal hope in any situation. Fear? Yeah, was there fear? I would say there's fear in but you got to be able to manage that in these high stress situations because fear is very detrimental. You got to be able to focus because you have to perform and fear can be a detriment to that.
Did everybody, I mean, I don't want to get into personal stuff for everybody else, but did everybody have that same kind of faith? Did you minister to anybody?
Uh, we, we had some discussions about that after we got Dr. Space Station. Yes, but everybody's at a different place. Um, the Lord has prepared me for that moment. over decades. And that's what really, you know, Glenn, the book, Second Space, that you mentioned, I didn't publish the book to sell the book. I published the book because of the message.
The message is hope in the now comes in Jesus Christ, our Lord, and hope in eternity comes in Jesus Christ, our Lord. And you can handle situations in the now because Christ has forgiven you of your sins. And it's also a big huge part about preparation, preparation, preparation. And that's what the message of the book is. You'll see life is tough, and I've said it many times.
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of space exploration discussed by Hugh Ross?
And that's, again, that's, that's the message of the book. It's in the book.
The guys getting in, I've thought about them. I mean, they're going farther into space than man has ever gone before. They're going to be closer to the moon without landing on it than we've ever been before. And I think about all of the things that could go wrong. What advice would you give? I mean, they don't need it. They've been up over and over and over again, but
It must be, I mean, when you're strapped into that seat and you've got all of that explosive power underneath you, and I always think of it, God forbid, I always think of it at go with throttle up. What advice do you give to people going into space? What should we be thinking or praying for?
Yeah, well, that's a great question. These individuals are professionals. I mean, I know them all well. I did a spacewalk with Reed Wiseman back in 2014. So we were outside the space station together doing a spacewalk. So I know them well. Victor Glover, it's hard to put into words. I mean, you know, you're the only people in the whole universe doing that at the moment.
And the responsibility there, and you're in a one-man space capsule shaped like a person out in the vacuum of space. It's just, and you see Hawaii go by at 17,500 miles an hour below you. It's just amazing. It's thrilling. And there's, again, responsibility because you're busy. You got work to do. You're not out there to sightsee. You're out there to perform tasks.
So anyway, that's what that's like. But anyway, these folks are professional. They have done their preparation. They are ready to go. They're excited about going. But if something goes wrong, that's why we train. The ground teams, this is a huge team. This isn't just them. It's the ground teams as well. And honestly, the reason we docked successfully ultimately was because
maintaining control of the spacecraft in a very difficult situation, but the ground team's coming up with a plan on the fly to get us safely docked. And that's what we do at NASA. We prepare, we hope and plan for the pristine mission, knowing that things are going to go wrong. This is high-risk business that we're in. And then we're ready to handle those situations when they occur.
And thus far, historically, we've been able to do that well. We've had many, many situations that we have been able to rectify on the fly. Real time, there's a couple, as we know, that we've had tragedy has happened. But regrettably, that's part of this business. It can be as difficult as it is. But obviously, you don't go until you think you're fully ready. And I know the people.
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Chapter 7: How does the story of Noah's Ark reflect themes of mercy and wrath?
I know John Blevins, the chief engineer of the Space Launch System, the rocket. He's ready. I've talked to him just yesterday. And they are all prepared. And if any small thing that they think could be a detriment to this mission happens prior to launch, they won't go. And that's just the way we, that's the way they operate.
You were up there. We had the capability of going and rescuing you and politics, at least from this vantage point seemed to play a role in that. I don't know if that's true from your vantage point, but when Elon Musk got involved, uh, that must've been a good day.
Well, I would say it like this. I don't know all those conversations. I can't speak to any of those things that happened from the political realms, as you mentioned. But we were prepared in all aspects of space flight. Sunny and I both had been space station commanders in the past. We understood the space station.
That's one of the reasons we were selected for the position we were in, because you just never know. And when our stay was extended, we were fully, fully qualified and prepared to do every single function on the space station, including spacewalks, which we did. And that was because we pushed some of it. We certainly did. It wasn't just in the system.
We pushed and said we need to be ready because we just don't know. But that's how we, and that mantra, that's how we roll, right? We prepare, prepare for all contingencies, and this one was one of them. So when we got extended, there was no reason. I wouldn't have sent somebody up to get me, honestly, Glenn, because we were trained, and we were, we had the experience. We'd been there before.
We understood space station operations, and I wouldn't have sent somebody up to get me either. So could they have launched a rocket and spent hundreds of millions of dollars to do that, to come get us? Probably could, but there was no need to do that. Just work us into the normal flow, and that's how it played out. So that's why we were there for almost 10 months.
And, you know, it's a small price to pay when you're ā because to serve your country, especially in this fashion, is a privilege. I know that's what all the four astronauts on board Artemis right now, that's the way they view it. It's a privilege to be in the position they're in, and they're honored to serve in that fashion, and so were we.
I got to believe, you know, I talked to Buzz Aldrin. It was my dad's, I think, 70th birthday. And I arranged lunch with the two of us and Buzz Aldrin. And it was kind of a sad meeting because, you know, he's never really moved past the walking on the moon. And he said it was devastating to come back to Earth and knowing you're never going back up.
I mean, and you're in your 20s and you've just done the greatest thing any man has ever done on Earth.
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Chapter 8: What scientific evidence supports the biblical account of Noah's flood?
And so in some ways it must've been kind of nice. Wow. I get to stay up here for an extra year, uh, in some ways. Um, but now that you're, you're out of it, does that play a role in, in you at all of, I'm not going back up because it's a very small club and really super cool.
I tell you, it is a small club. It is really super cool, but we're all, you know, when, when I, when I read scripture glance, I see that my purpose in existing is for my Lord's glory, and it ultimately is my good, and that's my focus.
I have a greater hope, a much greater hope than spaceflight could ever bring, and that's eternal hope with Jesus Christ my Lord, and that's what drives me, and that's my focus. I will not be down. 464 days in space is plenty for me and for anyone, but would I like to go to the moon? Sure, but I'm not going to because I've got a great hope.
Thank you so much. The name of the book, Stuck in Space, An Astronaut's Hope Throughout the Unexpected. Get it now. Stuck in Space. Butch, thank you so much. This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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The president could say, we're all going to die in 10 minutes. The missiles have been launched and you will be in your head. You'll be going, don't bang, bang, bang, bang. I mean, it's going to happen. And I, I apologize for workplace harassment is what it is. Bring that light to, to your day. All right. Lots of stuff going on. We just talked about Artemis last hour tonight.
I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm 10. I feel like I'm 10. I'm so excited. I'm going to be there at the launch tonight. We'll talk about that tomorrow and bring you some amazing stuff. If you're a torch insider, you're going to get some backstage stuff all throughout the day. We'll be posting it. The president is going to speak on, I don't know what.
He says the Iran war, but it could be, I mean, did you see what he posted yesterday on truth? I mean, I felt really good, but at the same time, I'm like, wow, I've never seen a president say this.
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