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Best of the Program | Guests: Jared Isaacman & Charlie Duke | 4/2/26
02 Apr 2026
Chapter 1: What is the significance of NATO in today's world?
Hey, in today's podcast, you're going to get a lot of really good stuff, but there is no way to separate the best today because it's all so good and important. You might want to listen to the full podcast, but here's the reduced version and you're going to get so liberating and so great. My message to Europe about NATO, what I think
We need to say to Europe and NATO that the president just won't or can't. Well, I don't want to count him out. He might someday, but I said it today. Also, Charlie Duke, he was the youngest guy ever to walk on the moon, one of the last guys to walk on the moon. We talk about the moon launch and its importance.
Also, Jared Isaacman, he is an amazing, I mean, he is almost an Elon Musk, and he is now the head of NASA. We talk about the launch and the importance of the launch. People don't understand what's really happening. This is not 1968. This is not Apollo 11. This is an entirely new economy and new vision. Don't miss a second of today's show. Here's the edited podcast.
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Chapter 2: How does Charlie Duke feel about the Artemis II launch?
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of private citizens leading NASA?
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Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now let's get to work. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program. I have to tell you, we live in such amazing times. And yesterday I was thinking, you know, 15 years ago, I remember doing a monologue saying, look at the minds, the intellects that were our founding fathers. They were the greatest.
Benjamin Franklin said, We have a paper from the London Times back in the day where Benjamin Franklin had been on a boat for three months going over there to talk to the king. And they said, hey, he's been doing these electricity experiments with lightning. We think he has a lightning gun. If you live in London, be careful because he might just try to use his lightning gun to burn London down.
I mean, he was so far ahead of things at the time. And Jefferson was the same way. And I thought, where are the great minds? I want to tell you, we are living through remarkable times right now. The brains, the talent, and the good people that are actually working to change and save our country is... I don't think we would...
I don't think we would have survived if Elon Musk hadn't have changed things at X so we could actually have freedom of speech again. And Jared Isaacman is an amazing American. He is the new NASA administrator.
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Chapter 4: Why is the Artemis program important for the future of space exploration?
Um, he is a guy who is a private citizen. He was also, um, one of the first private citizens in space, the first private citizen to perform a spacewalk. He ran Drake in and shift for really successful private businesses. Um, and now is making the changes needed at NASA that are, is going to change everything in the world. Uh, and he joins me now. How are you, sir?
Doing great, Glenn. How are you?
I am really great. What an amazing day yesterday. I talked to somebody who was with you and watched you and said he was very stoic. Everybody else was cheering and clapping, and you just smiled there towards the end. You were very stoic. It had to be... At least it was for me, because I watched the Challenger explode. It was terrifying all the way.
It was exciting, but I was worried about every little thing. You know more than I do. What was going through your mind?
Yeah, well, I have to tell you, being strapped into the rocket, being on top of it, is a lot less stressful than being on Earth and being responsible for it. You know, those astronauts embarking on Artemis II for sure are undertaking the opening act in America's great return to the moon, but they also really represent, you know, kind of the spearhead of America's space program right now.
So there is an awful lot on this mission, and I understand that ascent, which is what you witnessed yesterday,
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Chapter 5: What challenges does NASA face with the Artemis missions?
It's just one part of the story, right? It was a very clean launch. There's no doubt about it. But we have nine more days to go until they splash down off the West Coast of the United States.
So Jared, can you explain, because I am shocked at just the responses from some of my tweets. The people who say this is a waste of money, this makes no difference, this is, you know, we didn't go in the first place, all the way to this is just America's ego trip. Can you explain clearly to the average person why this is not the Apollo, you know, we're not going to get Tang out of this.
that this actually will change everything as we know it, the space economy alone.
Oh, for sure, Glenn. Thanks for the question. Honestly, we could be talking about this all afternoon. We don't hit the pause button on progress here in this country. We continue to move forward. Are the arguments good that we have a lot of other problems and hardships we should be dealing with? Sure, absolutely. You know what NASA's budget is? It's a quarter percent of the discretionary budget.
I think that is a small price to pay to go out and see what we might learn, what we might discover that could have... Scientific potential, economic potential, geez, national security potential. I mean, the high ground of space matters right now. And where we are going, we are going to the moon, but it's going to be different this time.
No doubt we are picking up after the pioneers from the Apollo era, but we're going back. to stay. We're building a moon base and we are going to turn that moon base into a scientific and technological proving ground. We are going to test things you can't do on Earth. You can't do in low Earth orbit where the International Space Station is.
And what we will learn there will help us someday go to Mars. This is our destiny to go out and explore the solar system. I mean, it's part of our DNA. We've crossed all the seas, we've climbed all the mountains, we've discovered all the islands. Well, you know where the next grand adventure is? It's out there in space.
So, Jared, a
I think that we are missing a good portion of the American people. I would not be surprised if it was only 20% of the American people knew about this launch yesterday, which is a crying shame. And then people don't really understand it. And when it's couched as this is just about discovery and science and crossing into the unknown, I don't think it connects with people as much as...
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Chapter 6: How does the conflict with Iran relate to NATO's role?
And they're going to stay there until about another 12 hours or so. We're going to have a meeting and make sure all the systems are good. And then we're going to send them on the translunar injection where they will go around the moon farther into space than any humans have ever gone before. This is all a flight test for this vehicle and rocket. That's Artemis 2.
Artemis 3 in 2027 is going to be very Apollo 9-esque, where we will rendezvous the spacecraft Orion with the landers, but we're going to do it in Earth orbit, where we're close to home. And we're going to get very comfortable with the integrated operations. And then in 2028, you're going to have Artemis 4, which will actually land mass astronauts on the moon.
In parallel, though, we are building the moon base. Starting in early 2027, literally on a NASA moon-based website, you are going to see robotic uncrewed landings on a near monthly cadence as we start testing out mobility and power and navigation, you know, surface improvement, scientific experiments, tech demonstrations, like actually working with the water ice on the moon.
We're going to do that in parallel, building the base so when our astronauts arrive, they've got a lot of equipment to work with.
So can we talk about why that's important to have a lot of equipment up there?
Well, I mean, we've never, you know, we've never inhabited another celestial body. And I'll tell you, and this is remarkable, and you know this, of course, For more than 25 years, there has been a continuous American presence in low Earth orbit at the International Space Station.
So if you're 25 years old or younger, there hasn't been a time you've been alive on this planet where there weren't American astronauts orbiting above you. But if you're going to put astronauts in space and keep them alive, the best place to do it is low Earth orbit. You've got the atmosphere and Earth's magnetosphere there that protect you from radiation and micrometeorites and orbital debris.
But where you want to go next is to the surface, the surface of the moon where you can interact with the regolith. You can build habitation. You can cover the habitation with regoliths. for protection against meteoroids and radiation, you can work with the water ice. And if you can work with the water ice on the moon, you can make hydrogen, you can make oxygen, and those are key propellants.
And why does that matter? Because when you send astronauts to Mars someday, you're going to need to make your own propellant to come home. Better to prove that out on the moon when you're three days away than on Mars when you're nine months away.
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Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from America's past military alliances?
That's not how it is supposed to work. This is why we are recalibrating back to doing the near impossible. We announced two weeks ago Space Reactor One Freedom. A nuclear power and propulsion spacecraft. It's an interplanetary spacecraft that we will launch in 2028. There are no humans on board.
It will carry the Skyfall scientific payload, which is three helicopters, if you will, that are going to fly around the red planet and explore it. That's what NASA is supposed to do. Nuclear power and propulsion. Unbelievable. SpaceX and Blue Origin, you know, NASA figured out the chemical propulsion game a long time ago. We handed it off to industry.
SpaceX and Blue Origin, through competitive dynamics, have improved the capabilities. You have reusability now. It costs less. Great. That helps us in our missions. to do more science and discovery, to build a moon base. But it means we need to shift focus and resources to doing what they can't do. You know, there's no business case for nuclear reactors and nuclear power and propulsion in space.
That is something that NASA should be doing. And when we figure that out someday, if there's a business case, we can hand it off to industry and then we'll work on our fusion drives because someday we're going to We're going to want to actually be able to have a mission to another star system. So NASA never goes at this alone. We didn't go alone in the 60s.
We work with our commercial partners and international partners to do the near impossible.
Jared, it's really exciting to know you and an honor to know you, and you are exactly the right guy for the job at this time. Thank you so much, and congratulations to everybody on the team all over the world that put Artemis up, and we will continue to pray for the astronauts. Thank you.
Thank you. We'll keep you posted. I was glad to see you at the launch yesterday. Thanks for coming on. Thank you, Jared.
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program. All right, so let me just start with the basics. What is NATO? What is NATO? Well, there was a time right after the guns fell silent in 1945, and we realized the Atlantic Ocean didn't divide us. It actually binds us, and we had a common enemy. We had fascism, and we had communism.
And out of the ashes of World War II came this North Atlantic treaty organization, NATO. wasn't just a military pact but a promise that we would stand together against tyranny if anybody tried to overrun the west and try to kill western civilization again we would do that and Because we're like this, we decided we would help repair Europe because you had nothing. It was over for Europe.
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Chapter 8: How can space exploration benefit the global economy?
Well, our president at the time was General Dwight D. Eisenhower. And he was like, no, no. No, we're not going to get involved in this. In fact, we have to prevent you from doing this. And he didn't do it to weaken Europe. He tried to do it to save Europe. The world was watching. The Cold War was tightening. And the West couldn't look like it was an empire clinging to its past.
And that is the moment that the relationship changed. And it should have become a partnership of equals, but it didn't. It just got worse and worse and worse for us. So, Europe, let's discuss this special relationship that you're so worried about now. And I want you to know, I'm just one American. I'm speaking for myself.
And I actually like Europe, or at least what it was, not what you are becoming. And quite honestly, you might feel the same way about us, and that's fine. But let me at least help you understand where many Americans are coming from. Back in the 1980s, we continued to pay for almost your entire defense. Ronald Reagan stood before you and warned, do not become dependent on Russian energy.
Don't trade short-term comfort for long-term vulnerability. He said it plainly and repeatedly. You heard him. But what did you do? You built pipelines anyway. And we were dumb enough to go, well, we're going to continue to defend you while you're doing business with your enemy. This is when the consequences came. When Russia moved again, America stepped in again.
Recently, we spent political capital at home against the will of the American people. None of us wanted to be involved in Ukraine. We still can't figure out how that's our war, okay? But we sent billions upon billions upon billions of dollars in aid, more than you did, weapons, intelligence, logistics, support. We spent our treasure in the illusion that we were partners.
But I guess, in some ways, we were partners. I mean, I guess. I mean, we spent billions of dollars so the Ukrainian elite could buy Italy's Ferraris. So Paris could sell its beloved Couture. So Monaco could rake in the dollars on its gaming tables. You're welcome, Europe. And in a moment of our own insanity, we actually paid the pension for the Ukrainian government workers.
We put ourselves deeper in debt for your security and our hypothetical security. How is this a problem for America? But I want to thank you for thanking us so much and repaying. Oh, no, no. Just like always, you never repay us, at least not in cash. Instead, you take our hard-earned money from American taxpayers and you squander it. We can do that ourselves, quite frankly.
We're pretty good at it. We don't need you to help us. Also, something that really bothers me, we seem to worry more about the rapes of your own daughters and mothers and sisters on the streets of Ukraine and Denmark and Norway and Great Britain and France than your governments do. Why do we care more about that than your government does?
Maybe it's because your government believes that the American cash machine is always going to be there. And they think you're dumb enough just to allow them to continue to buy your vote. But you're not that dumb. And neither are we. You know, we wonder why they should care about who's raping your citizens when it seems at least they're so busy raping the American people.
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