The Glenn Beck Program
Best of the Program | Guests: Sen. Ron Johnson & Liz Wheeler | 3/30/26
30 Mar 2026
Chapter 1: What are the No Kings protests and their significance?
How ridiculous is the no kings protest in the United Kingdom where they have it? And the end goal convincing 3.5% of the population to overthrow the system. There is a calculus to all the madness that you saw. Also, Oklahoma is getting close to passing a bill that would allow our dead relatives to become plant fertilizer. Not making that up.
And do I have to hate Liz Wheeler based on what the Pope said about Catholics? Because I'm tired of hating everybody. Can you join me on today's podcast? Liz joins me to weigh in on the subject, and we talk about, do we really have to hate one another? I don't think so. All that and more on today's podcast. You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
If all you see on the Internet now is that Catholics were not allowed to go in and, you know, access the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem because, you know, Jews, I guess, hate people who are Christian, then you don't have all of the facts. And the story might resonate with you a bit, I guess.
But what you may not know and is really important to know is that Israel closed all of the holy sites, not just the Christian holy sites.
Chapter 2: How is the Oklahoma bill regarding human remains controversial?
And they're doing it because Iran is intentionally targeting the holy sites with their missiles, and Israel wants to protect them. That is their job, to protect all of the holy sites. You didn't hear about that online, did you? Did you hear about the Iranian missile fragment that nearly hit the Church of the Holy Sepulchre recently? Where were all of the public condemnations then?
Did you see any major figures coming out to condemn Iran as quickly as they came out to ban and to spread this online like crazy about Israel? Closing major sites at times, you know, that, you know, Iran knows that there could be people to target and kill them is not unreasonable. And it's also not unprecedented in wartime.
I mean, I hate to say how much how much did those Londoners hate Christians when they closed the St. Paul's Cathedral in World War Two? By the way, how much did Catholics hate Catholics when they closed COVID? Closed the Vatican for COVID. Did they hate Catholics? No. Are they anti-Christian? No, of course not.
Chapter 3: Do we really have to hate one another based on religious beliefs?
It's called safety. Israel is treating the Christian sites no differently than their own Jewish ones. Why do the Israelis hate Jews so much? Jews still cannot openly pray at the Western Wall. Okay? Can't do it. Christians now can go into the Holy Sepulcher It's a lose-lose for Israel. No matter what they do, it's always a lose-lose.
If they let the Cardinals in, they were targeted by Iran, it would be Israel's fault. Why didn't they keep them safe? If they don't let them in, it's still their fault. Either way, Israel is villainized, and they know that. But I will tell you, they protect all of the holy sites. And quite honestly, I don't think that the Iranians are targeting the Christian sites or the Jewish sites.
I think they are targeting the Mosque. because they know that will wash the world in blood. And this is just another story used to outrage and divide us. The Pope said in his Palm Sunday message, he was preaching against Israel, saying, God doesn't listen to the prayers who wage war. You know, I'm really glad the Pope's not infallible. I'm really glad, because that's not true at all.
Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Pope's statements on Catholics?
It's not true at all. Bible is full of prayers from warriors about war. Full of it. Full of it. I don't know if you caught that one. What really bothered me was that instead of focusing on cleaning up the messes, quite honestly, in our own churches, I'll make that broad, here's a guy using Palm Sunday to stoke division to point the finger and tell us who to hate now.
And still, Israel has promised to work with them to ensure that they can safely access the holy sites during a war. But I don't know about you, I'm tired of All the message on telling who to hate. I'm going to show you something I've never showed these before. This is a medallion. I wear it every day.
This is a medallion from World War II, and it's a Christian medallion, and it's all of the Christian faith, most Protestant, okay? Christian medallion. This one is a Catholic medallion. It's Our Lady of Guadalupe. I grew up Catholic. this was a special meeting to my mother, et cetera, et cetera. I wear both of those. And this weekend I attended a bar mitzvah. I don't hate anybody's religion.
I don't know why we have to hate each other. I don't understand why our churches must divide each other. And don't get me wrong. It's not all churches. It's just some people doing some things at churches and everybody gets on board and they get up there, you know, stop it. Stop it. You know, I really think some point we're going to realize that Jesus is coming home.
And when he comes and gets here, if we're all arguing amongst ourselves, do you remember what it was like when mom and dad got home and all the kids were arguing and bickering and dividing themselves? Remember what they used to say to us? I think daddy's going to say that to us too when he gets home. Stop your bickering.
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Chapter 5: How does Israel manage access to holy sites during conflicts?
I don't care who started it. Stop it right now. All hands on deck. I'm tired of whose church I have to hate. I'm tired of what podcaster I have to hate today. You know, I'm tired of having to hate the Jews every day, no matter who's saying what.
There is a dark spiritual effort to tear Christians and Jews apart, to tear Christians apart from other Christians, to take conservatives and tear us apart. It's happening everywhere. Every coalition is splintering into smaller and smaller groups. And meanwhile, the enemies of Judeo-Christianity, they're all growing.
Radical Islam watching this fight like a vulture, waiting to swoop in and eat the remains after we kill each other. You don't have to be a victim through all of this. You can see through it. You can see through all the narratives that are designed to make you angry, to put you in a silo of lonely outrage where you're totally alone and useless.
Once you feel like you're alone, you are open to some very dark alliances. Look what happened to the left. They were convinced that every little group was for themselves, and suddenly we see the Marxists and the Islamists working together because they agreed on one thing, people they hate. If we're not careful, that's exactly what's going to happen to us.
And if the whole conservative movement turns on itself, who wins? Who wins? If Christianity turns on itself now, when the Lord needs all of us to prepare the way, all of us, what do you think's going to happen? If we let Jews and Christians be split apart, then what alliance comes next to take its place? Don't let anybody manipulate you into anger.
It may feel good to fight, but it might feel good to be right. But he who lives by the sword dies by the sword, and I'd prefer not to die that way. The hate we create for one another will consume us right after it's consumed our enemy. I'm going to go to Liz Wheeler, a Catholic who I'm supposed to hate today, I guess. Hi, Liz. How are you?
Hi, Glenn. Do you hate me? I don't hate you. You can probably start with that.
I know. I don't hate you.
Okay, good.
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Chapter 6: What is the 3.5% rule in the context of revolutions?
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts. So there's a couple of things I want to talk to you about here that are a little disturbing. There is a bill that is moving through now in Oklahoma that will legalize what was until very recently absolutely unlawful.
the conversion of human remains into fertilizer. Let's make sure we have this right. The body of your dead father, wife, husband, child, whatever, is going to be placed into a container with wood chips and straw where it's broken down and processed and then used for compost. Oh, okay.
Chapter 7: How do color revolutions impact society and politics?
Then they're going to call this natural organic reduction. Oh, of course they do. Because every age that crosses moral boundaries first invents softer vocabulary. You know, first abortion, you know, is abortion. Then it's, you know, and then it's then it's not. It's health care. Death by doctors. Same thing. Health care. Now we're no longer going to bury our dead. We recycle them.
Oh.
Does this sound dystopian to anybody else? Because to me, it kind of sticks out. You know, it's a little dystopian. So what is the body worth? And I don't mean price-wise. It's an old question. I mean, you know, it only feels new because we, I guess we've forgotten how often it used to be asked and how often it is always answered in the wrong direction.
You know, early 20th century, world rushed headlong into a promise of science and progress and follow the science and follow the progress. And it was great. GK Chesterton, he saw something dangerous. He wrote a poem about, kind of satire, really, mocking blind faith and progress of his age. And he, you know, had a warning. He dressed it up as a hymn to progress. Here's what it says.
Let me see if I can get this here. He wrote, "'Lead us, evolution, lead us, "'up the future's endless stair. "'Chop us, change us, prod us, weed us, "'for stagnation is despair. "'Groping, guessing, yet progressing.' Lead us nobody knows where. Hmm. Hmm. To whatever variation our posterity may turn, hairy, squashy, or crustacean, bulbous-eyed, or square of stern, toward that unknown God we yearn.
Goodness equals what comes next. Oh, that is great. That's great. So let me see if I understand this. A future with no fixed definition of good, no anchor, no standard, just progress, just change, just whatever comes next. Goodness equals what comes next. That means nothing is sacred and we're in for hard times, okay? When everything is material, everything is just process, you know.
Everything becomes useful in one form or another. And that's exactly where we are. That's exactly where we are. Once you... Except the fact that the human body is merely biological matter. You strip it of meaning. You strip it beyond function. Of course it can be composted. Why don't we just pick up the bodies with pitchforks and throw them in?
Why don't we just put them in the compost pile out back of the house? I mean, it's efficient. It's sustainable. It is modern, really. It's also a complete rupture with thousands of years of human understanding, mainly from, oh, what was it? The Judeo-Christian perspective. This is what happens when you start losing that perspective. The body's just a shell.
But the way we used to think of it, it's not a shell. It's not disposable. It's not like one of those irritating CD cases where you were trying to get, or God forbid you go into a CVS now, you try to buy a razor blade, and you can't ever get it out of that stupid packaging. No, it's part of the person. It's formed intentionally. It has dignity.
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