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Chapter 1: What are the current weather conditions impacting the hosts?
The Haraki Breakfast. Get your insulation job sorted with Bunnings Trade. We're at Gusty and Easterly's today, which is interesting. Welcome along to the show, Wednesday the 24th of June, 2026. My name's Jeremy Wells, this is Manai Stewart.
Good morning, Jeremy Wells. How wet? How wet? Straight off the rip. It is absolutely bucketing down.
If you were a wind Manai Stewart, which direction would you come from?
I'd be a nah, Easterly. Would you? No, I don't know.
Moist. Moist and humid.
Yeah, I don't know. We've been through this. I don't know which wins are which. I only know the North West is warm. And I don't even know if that's true in Auckland.
So the... It's never going to matter to me.
It's where it comes from. I've never sailed a boat. I don't own a windmill. I don't care what direction it's coming from.
It has a huge effect on you and your personal moisture levels.
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Chapter 2: How does the conversation shift to the topic of gumboots?
Would the weather in London be similar to Auckland? And if you had a 39 in Auckland, damn near kill you because of the bloody humidity. Is it similar there?
It is, but the weather in London, it can get hot like that. I mean, it never gets above, what, 32, I think, is the hottest in Auckland of all time. So, Auckland's weird because of the sea. It moderates it slightly. London, a little bit more inland. Plus, it's sort of continental weather.
It's the continental weather that comes over, mate, and absolutely cooks you.
Because what's happening is this particular hot air mass is coming from Saharan Africa. Oh. And then it's come up through Europe and it's heading all the way to, you know, the UK. Oh, it's an African weather system. It's an African weather system. That's where the heat comes from. Immigration is a problem in the UK.
Sam has texted through, how wet here? If we come back a little bit closer to home, she is absolutely balmy down here. And I wanted to ask you a question, fellas. Where do you stand on umbrellas? Are you guys members of the umbrella community?
I have an umbrella. I have a number of umbrellas at home that I have somehow acquired. I've never bought an umbrella.
That used to be a piece of promotional material because I've got a National Bank umbrella in the back of the missus' car. And every time I see it, I'm like, man, that's cool. I don't know where I would ever use that. Because what is a jacket if not an umbrella that you wear?
It's a close, a skin umbrella.
Yeah, skin umbrella.
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Chapter 3: What humorous anecdotes do the hosts share about rats?
R.M. Williams, Reuter. Yeah. Night gummies. Although, then again, it wasn't wet the day. I mean, he might wear a pair of gumboots.
Primary concern I have is, as I've said before, the poor infrastructure in the Super City, such that the grates in the gutters fill with leaves, and then there is a pool around my Suzuki Swift, which at five in the morning I cannot be buggered to unclog the drain. So it's easier for me to just chuck a pair of gumboots on.
And then I can walk through anything. I'd like to see the Swift's wheels be able to go up and then the Swift automatically turn into a boat.
To be fair, from where it was parked, I probably could have reached over and pulled it onto the sidewalk and got in that way.
I saw you in that car the other day, by the way. You were going along the street outside of work here. I look like Mark Togey in a mini. You know, I couldn't tell whether it's the fact that the car is reasonably small that made you look bigger or that you were larger and made the car look small, but something was happening. There was a perspective trick going on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like an adult clown on a children's tricycle. That's what it looks like. A surprising amount of headroom in that thing. Okay. I'll tell you what, it's going in for a waft this afternoon, so we'll find out whether that thing is still going or not. I'm expecting a hefty bill. Enough that I can write it off on insurance, surely. Yeah. So, yeah.
Anyway, look, I wore gumboots in this morning. We were just saying off-air what percentage of, and impromptu, Jerry's theories of a Wednesday morning. What percentage of Kiwis does Jerry think own a pair of gumboots? Because I said before, we built this country on rock and roll, but also gumboots.
And you reckon that's sort of fallen by the wayside. Well, I think less and less. But I think once upon a time, I think every New Zealander owned a pair of gumboots. I know growing up as a kid, it was one of the first things you buy a kid. When they're little, you want them to wear gumboots because they can splash in puddles. And there's nothing better as a kid when it rains.
Going outside in the rain is such a cool thing. And it's a cool thing going outside with your little kids in the rain and splashing in puddles and stuff.
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Chapter 4: How does the discussion transition to the topic of old age and retirement?
He certainly has. What were his critics saying? He scored twice while they were saying he's too old.
Too old, mate. Too old? How old is he? He was born... 41, I think. Is he 41? Yeah, okay. Well, he doesn't have to tackle anyone, you know? I don't think it's too bad. Plus also, any time Cristiano Ronaldo puts his hand up to play for my soccer team, I'm probably going to pick him. Yeah. I don't think it's too crazy an idea to pick Cristiano Ronaldo on a soccer team.
Although let me check that because I don't have the football credibility headband on.
Don't just drape it over your hat like you did yesterday because that didn't work.
Headband on. Yep, still agree with the take. Cristiano Ronaldo, good enough to play in my soccer team. Why wouldn't you?
I mean, some people as well at 41, if he's injury free and he can still... I mean, have you seen the...
The nick that that guy's in? Yes, 100%. It's not your average 41. It's not the 41 I'm going to be in a couple of years' time. This guy doesn't laugh that hard. It's this guy's been training his entire life.
No, I mean, it's not the 20. Him at 41 is different than you at 24. Yeah, that's right. Ronaldo scored twice, holding Portugal to a 4-0 lead after 65 minutes in Houston. A career best innings of 62 from Izzy Sharp has led the White Ferns to a six-wicket win over Scotland and Bristol to stay alive at Cricket's T20 World Cup.
New Zealand needs to beat England in their final group game and rely on other results for a chance to make the semis. And uh-oh, injury news on a Wednesday from the Warriors. It involves Jackson Ford. The club's confirmed he'll spend 10 to 12 weeks on the sidelines after suffering a pec injury in Saturday's win over the Cowboys, Sundays actually.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of an aging population on welfare?
Clarkson loves them on his farm, yeah.
Man, they dress so strangely on farms in the UK. Jeans and a pair of galoshes. They love a plaid shirt. And then a parka. Yep, a parka. Yeah.
All neutral colours. They love a fawn.
Townie clothes. That's what farmers in New Zealand wear when they are going out. And they just wear them around the farm. Someone else said, never been more proud. If it wasn't for your gumboots, where would you be? I've got quite a long skin umbrella. How wet. Jerry's out of touch. I mow the lawn in my gumboots.
Is that an individual comment or just?
I think just a broader assessment of the state of Jerry in 2026. Okay. Can I just make one passing note on the validity of my gumboot wearing this morning? This is something that you may not be aware of as a member of the town-based community. As am I. I've lived in Auckland for over a decade now. The sock tuck.
familiar with so okay members of the rural community don't mind the flat feet but uh members of the rural community will be familiar with anytime you're going to wear boots or gumboots yeah you will tuck your pants into your socks and then that way you can just step in and out of those suckers okay anytime i see someone fumbling around with the hem of their pant i know they are
An inexperienced gumboot operator.
I will go. I'm part of the sock tuck community, but only because I'm also part of the bicycle community. Oh, yeah. And so if you're wearing a flappy pant, and I am wearing a flappy pant at the moment, more prone to a flappy than a skinny jean, then that thing will get caught in the chain.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts propose to keep older individuals engaged in the workforce?
$1,200? I've got no choice. I might as well... If you're going to spend $1,200 on that, you might as well spend $20 on a brand new Commodore. Babe?
You try and get that one.
I'll be trying to get that one across the line. I'm praying for it. This is the thing. When you've got a car that you don't want to pass all off, it'll never die. Every time I take that thing over the pits, they come back and tell me the same thing. No, sweet. Did you know you don't have a dipstick? Yep, I know, I know. No, it's fine.
Good car, though. Good car that keeps going and going and going.
This is the problem. This is the bloody problem with this thing. All I want it to do is break down, which means it never will. Meanwhile, you buy your dream car, it'll break down the moment you turn the key. You may have that thing for another 10 years.
No, I can't. The Hauraki Breakfast. Jeremy Wells and Minaya Stewart. The Hodaki Breakfast.
So an election coming up at the end of the year, October, I believe.
Yes, one of the hot button issues, something that's going to affect you in the next couple of years, and that's the retirement age. I've been wondering why this has been such an issue, because not only in our country, but in a lot of countries at the moment, they're talking about boosting it up. And I didn't really understand why, but we're spending a ridiculous amount on it, aren't we?
Yeah, so 40%, 40.26 actually, percent of all of the welfare outputs from the government go to superannuation. Right. So 40% of all of the government's welfare spending is to paying people the superannuation benefit over 65%.
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Chapter 7: What solutions are discussed regarding child labor and workforce sustainability?
Yeah, that's right. Faster than Rudder. Well, I mean, that was two years ago when he was 79.
I mean, he wouldn't trip up over his own feet.
I'd take him now. 81, I'd take him. 79, probably a problem.
I don't reckon you'd take him.
Oh, come on. I don't reckon you'd take him. Murray Deaker, speaking of sport, still putting out his podcast, Murray Deaker's Sporting Lives. He's at 81 years old. Yeah, OK.
Still going. In terms of political parties, I believe National are saying we'll raise the retirement age to 67 from 65.
OK. And then my vibe on everyone else is they're just going, oh, no, yeah, yeah. Like, as long as you don't ask them, they're not going to address it. But I think it's going to have to go up.
Well, at some point it probably will because people are living longer. But the thing is with that, that's not necessarily fair because what about people who don't live longer? And the other part about it is what about people who are doing jobs which are physically demanding, which mean you can't, you know, you have to retire from it.
You can't keep going.
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Chapter 8: How does the episode conclude with reflections on personal experiences?
In 2065, it's predicted to be two to one.
Okay, so how about this then? Are we looking at the wrong end of the spectrum? Do we need to be bringing child labour back in to increase the amount of people that are paying for the retirees?
Well, that's not a bad idea. My thing would be based around, so at the moment, if you're unemployed, if you're a job seeker, that's what they say, unemployed now, people are job seekers. If you're a job seeker, 8% of total welfare spend from the government is on the unemployment benefit at the moment. The job seekers support emergency benefits.
So part of the job seeker is you have to be out there trying to look for jobs. And so this whole organization is based around trying to find people jobs. What about organizations? So between 65 and 70, you don't get your – pension unless you do a certain amount of volunteer work. Love it. Love it. So you've got to do, let's just say, an hour a day for a week.
So you do seven hours of volunteer work. It's ticked off. There's organizations that are looking, that are constantly out there working out how you can do the volunteer work.
And then we get someone to go around to your house. They have a look at you and what your skills and attributes are because- When the oldies retire, they always do something to keep themselves occupied. Some of them will walk circles in their backyard. Some of them will go back to crocheting or knitting or something. A lot of lost art. It's like, okay, you're the walker.
You can go and door knock, do the census. Mavis still likes to garden. She can go and do the roundabouts.
Yeah, totally. I mean, and you could extend it right out. I mean, if you're a former builder, for example, you might be able to do some handiwork down at a kindy. Yep. And a couple of hours there, and then you get, it's basically like an unemployment benefit, but for old people.
And then you get to a point where you can't do anything, and then the doctor goes, you know what, this person's got dementia, you know, they can't do anything.
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