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Chapter 1: What secret is mentioned at the beginning of the episode?
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Welcome along to the first bite of the cherry, the first podcast to see the sun, the first to see in a new day, the day of our Lord, the 19th of June, 2026, two days away from the shortest day.
Is it? Yeah. How will you be marking the solstice, Cherry? Well... You're sacrificing a goat, I presume?
No, I ate a lot of goat yesterday, by the way. Oh yeah, that's true. God, I ate a lot of goat. I mean, I ate more goat yesterday than I've ever eaten in my entire life. In one hour.
We don't eat enough goat in this country.
Goat's quite good. Well, done by the people that were cooking it last night. Goat's good.
Done by the five best restaurants that cook goat in the country. Yeah. But no, you go around the world, they eat a lot of goat. Yeah. For whatever reason, we don't. And we grow a good goat here.
We do grow a good goat. Also, there's a lot of goat pests out there.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of goat consumption in the conversation?
That's the end of the route. Thick top edge. He's gone. That's not what I was expecting. um goats yeah and they just suck man i we had a i had a mate as as a kid uh who had two goats and this was probably a technique issue but they both hung themselves because goats will climb whatever whatever you put so you know those giant cable you know the big um I know the things. It's like a wheel.
Yeah, it's like a big wheel. Like a big spindle. Yeah, and the cables come on them. Yeah. You can turn those into a goat habitat pretty easily, and some people generally do. So that's just in them genetically to climb because they like mountains. Yeah, I suppose so, yeah. Well, I think it's the same reason we like long uninterrupted views is because we can see predators coming. Right.
Subconsciously, your brain goes, no predator coming. We're good. Yeah. Relax. And so I think it's the same thing for them. That's why they climb. Then they can see further. They chill out. Ah. Now, the issue becomes, yeah, that's why, you know, when you sit there and you're like looking at a big, beautiful vista and you're like, why do I enjoy this? Like, what? Who cares?
I'm just looking at, why is this different than looking at a wall? And it's different because subconsciously your brain goes, safe.
I think there's a saying for mowing lawns. Apparently the reason that we like to mow lawns is because there's going to be no snakes in front of us.
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Chapter 3: Why do goats climb everything according to the hosts?
Yep. So we mow lawns around our house because it keeps us safe. Blowing my mind at 10 to 6.
Yep. Blowing my mind. Anyway, so because of all of that, goats will climb up on top of anything. And if you've got them in one of those bloody cable spool things and you've tied that goat to that thing, And it climbs up on top of it and does a couple of laps and then tries to jump back down again. Yeah, it's not going to work out well for it. And they had two of them that did that.
At the same time?
No, no, no, no. A mass suicide. Yeah. Romeo and Juliet situation. Waco.
Chapter 4: What are the challenges associated with raising goats?
They had Waco, yeah, that's right. And the craziest part, they were all wearing Nikes. And they had a big bowl of Gatorade. Got Kool-Aid. Was one of them called Branch Davidian? Yeah, yeah. The Branch Davidian goat. That was the breed of goat, actually. And they drank all from the Kool-Aid, and then they all died. And I think I'm mixing about five different cultures.
Yeah, I think I was, too. And then Waco. Yeah. Jonestown's the- Jonestown Massacre. Fuck, that's- Was that the Kool-Aid? Yeah, that was drinking the Kool-Aid. That was drinking the Kool-Aid. It was forced drinking of the Kool-Aid.
Well, not all of them. They wanted to. Most of them. They wanted to, but they'd been indoctrinated into.
It's so weird to want to die and then to want everyone else to die with you. Yeah. It's such a strange idea.
This is the thing about, oh, it's another drama. That's a replay. That's a replay.
Commentator replay.
I've done a hoot. Oh, man. Remember there was a period in, I want to say around 2017, 18, there was a lot of cult documentaries on Netflix. We watched all of them. Man, they were interesting. Yeah.
Yeah, what about the one, what's he called? Bhagwan?
The Bhagwan. The Bhagwan Sri Rajneesh? Yeah. I've heard of him. First of his name. Wild Country, that is what that one was called. Yeah, the Bhagwan. The Bhagwan.
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Chapter 5: How do the hosts relate goats to cults and their dynamics?
Went around homeless encampments around the country, around the motu, and flew 50,000 homeless people into there. Yeah, to vote. So that they could vote.
And they ended up getting a seat on the local council. Won the election. Brought 50,000 home. I mean, that was quite smart. Genius. But then, unfortunately, the homeless people stayed.
Yeah, now you've got 50,000 homeless people in your community. I mean, that...
It was unbelievable, the whole thing. And the best thing about that documentary is the footage was, because there was so much news footage of the whole thing. Have you watched that, Bruder? No. You've got to watch that. You've got to watch that. It's absolutely fascinating. He was the Maharishi. No, was he called the Maharishi?
The Bhagwan.
The Bhagwan, but he had another name.
Sri Rajneesh. That was his name.
And you'd just look at him and all you needed to do was be in his presence. Yep. And you'd immediately feel really, really good.
Yep. And all you have to do is give him your missus.
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Chapter 6: What insights do the hosts share about cult behavior?
Does it do some good in some people's lives? Probably. You can't say that there isn't some good that's coming out of it. But does the good outweigh the bad? No. Shout out to all of our Destiny Church listeners.
Should we do the radio show? Let's.