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Chapter 1: What historical styles of houses are discussed in this episode?
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Thank you. That's a good tip, Manari.
Yep, you are here. I am here. I am here to prove I'm here and it's live. It is 5.45 in 14, 15, 16 seconds. Currently 11.1, a low of 9.4, a high of 11.1. We've hit the high already today. I thought it was supposed to be freezing cold this morning, Gerry. Well, they lied to us, didn't they? I know. I thought that when I got up this morning at 5 o'clock instead of sleeping through my alarm.
Did you see what I sent through to the group chat, their thoughts and prayers for Aucklanders as the temperature could dip as low as plus 3? Yeah. That would be 6.10. Don't think it did. Don't think it did. No, it didn't. My first point of evidence would be that I slept with the air con on all night. Did you? I have sleep with the air con on every night this year. Have you? Yeah.
Because I live in one of those new builds. You can't cool them down. The government focuses so much on these rules for insulating houses for the coldest, most vulnerable members of our community, but insulation's come quite a long way, and we don't need to be doing that for new houses. These new builds, man. Real hot. Cannot cool them down.
So yesterday, you obviously had sun all day because it was not a single cloud in the sky. Yeah. So your house just got so much sun all day.
that you then couldn't cool the house down in the winter uh no no because once the sun set it did cool down and then we'll leave the windows open if we can and so that'll cool down it's just it just you generate enough heat in there and it insulates it that well we can't cool the bastard down wow yeah so it doesn't matter if we started at zero degrees you know Can't cool the bastards down.
Can't cool the bastards down. Quite a common thing on these new builds. Ah, flip. Okay, that's super interesting because my place is a very temperate house, I've got to say. It doesn't get too hot in the summer and it doesn't get cold in the winter as long as there's some sun.
If there's no sun in Auckland, say if it's a, let's just say it's a 13 degree day, 14 degree day, which is cold in Auckland, cold in Auckland, It's not actually cold, but it's cold for Auckland. Because the average in the winter is 15, the day high in Auckland in the winter. But there's no sun, then the house will be cold.
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Chapter 2: How does climate affect modern house designs in New Zealand?
What do you mean by architecture? Do you mean, like, public buildings and shit? No, no, like, you know, New Zealand... There's a particular New Zealand style. I think of those... rectangle weatherboard state houses. That's what I think of as the quintessential New Zealand. Well, they are lauded around the world. They are much lauded.
So those ones that were built in the 1950s, the weatherboard, or you've got the brick and tile that were built in the 30s, right? Yeah, those are all right. Those look very Coronation Street to me. Yeah, they do. But they were, in their time, they were quite good because they were cost efficient. Yeah. But then the 50s, you got the weatherboard and tile. Yeah.
It's a pretty good, I mean, those houses are still standing. They are, yeah. But the weatherboard is a New Zealand thing, isn't it?
Mm-hmm. Do other countries have weather boards? Can't think of them. I love hearing the phrase good bones about houses as well. It means I can just rip that thing up. It's got good bones. It's got good bones. And rip everything out of it and replace everything, but I don't need to replace the bones. Bones are good.
Well, then going back in the 1910s, you had the villas. I mean, they're still standing. That's like all the stuff around your area. Yeah, and Devonport. Good bones. Herne Bay. Herne Bay, Ponsonby, Mount Eden. Yeah. All the old houses built in the 1910s. And then in the 1920s, you had the bungalows. They were good. Yeah. California bungalows. You get a little Art Deco action around there too.
There's a bit of Art Deco. Napier really dining out on that. Well, because obviously they had a bit of building to do around then. Then we went brick and tile. Then we went weatherboard and tile. And... And then there was a period in the early 2000s where we went monolithic cladding. That's where the leaky homes came in. Now, that's where the problems came. Yes, big time.
Before then, even the classic 70s house that's got the breeze block bottom or the concrete block bottom. And then what? Some kind of cladding on the top. What is that? But it's basically on stilts, and it's got a garage underneath it. You see heaps around your neighborhood, actually. Well, ours was like a rough cast with the breeze blocks down the bottom and then brick up the top.
Brick up the top.
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Chapter 3: What challenges do new builds face in terms of temperature control?
Yeah, brick up the top, and then you had the aluminum joinery with a deck that kind of wrapped around the top. Yeah, potentially, yeah. But it was a rectangle shape. Yeah, yeah. They were good.
Like outrageous, the outrageous fortune. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like that. Is that what we're talking about?
Yeah, that was a New Zealand kind of. I don't know. I think we've got, I think those things there, they got real hot in the summer and they got real cold in the winter. Yeah, yeah. And then in the 80s, that's where we lost it. We lost it in the 80s and then we lost it in the 90s with the leaker. With the leakers, yeah. The leaker halosemers. The leaker halosemers are an absolute shocker.
Yeah, and you see down, go down to the mountain. We got all weird. James Hardy turned up with that weird product. Hardy Ward. Yeah. Good product. And we all stuck on it. Sometimes I remember my friends had a place and it looked like it was plaster stucco. And then a friend of mine accidentally put his car in reverse instead of, oh, sorry, forward instead of reverse. And he went straight into it.
And it turns out, no, you could boot a hole through that. Oh, no, it's just a board with, like, they've thrown some plaster at it. That's basically all it is. Yeah. And that made the board even more brittle. What were people thinking with that? I think, I don't know. What was it?
My idea would be that back in the day, because I know my cousin used to work at Organ Grammar and they had a house there and around the outside they had a lot of rendered concrete. And so maybe they thought instead of rendered concrete, which is fucking expensive, why don't we just put this fucking plaster on it? It looks the same. No one would know the difference.
But we will know the difference. Because you'll put a hole in it. It's a completely different thing. I think that hardy board stuff is one of those innovations in building where they were like, oh, this has fixed everything. Let's just use it for everything. And then it went everywhere. And then they're like, oh, hang on, hang on. It has its limitations.
I'd love to chat to someone who was a builder in the 90s that thought that that was, just to be honest, and go, oh, you know, I did. I thought that that was going to be the new innovation in building. Yeah. Going to make everything really light structurally, obviously. Yeah, but still strong. But still strong because you boot a hole in it. Brittle. Brittle mark.
And then I think in the 2000s, because of the 90s, we went back to that kind of monopitch roof style. Yeah. And then it was a weatherboard around the outside because they went, no, no, we've got to go back to weatherboards. And it was a monopitch with the weatherboard. Mm-hmm. And I think that's kind of – it's like a batch, like the great Kiwi batch kind of style, you know, based on that.
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Chapter 4: How does the podcast explore the evolution of New Zealand architecture?
I have not. I'm so lost. I have not. I'm three years in. I have not had a sleep in yet. I'm not looking at anyone. All right. No, you haven't, have you? All right. I haven't yet. Sweet as. I have.
I'm sorry. All right. Well, I had one yesterday. Bang your head. No, but when you wake up after a dream like that, you logically, rationally know that it's not true, but you still feel the same way that you felt in that dream. The feeling lingers. Yeah, the feeling does.
Same with when someone enters into your dream and then they're in your dream and then you wake up and you feel a bit differently about that person. You're like, even though I know I don't. But the feeling. I did. Well, you have a memory of it. We had a whole thing. We had a memory. We lived a life together. And what is the difference between that memory and a memory?
And your actual real life waking memories. Yeah.
Chapter 5: What are the common features of iconic New Zealand houses?
Well, in your mind, nothing. No, it's nothing. And that's why the feeling remains.
That's how number two of the people I'm in love with got on the list. Because I had a dream about her.
Yeah. Okay. And then what? Somehow she.
Then I fell in love with her in real life.
Okay, so you had a dream.
Yeah, I had a dream. It was a very simple dream. It wasn't dirty. That little boys and little girls have... No, no, no. I just, I remember it very clearly. One day, don't scare the same prey at last. No, we were sitting on the back seat of a car. Someone else was driving us. And I lay my head on her lap. Hold on, is this the dream? Yeah, this is the dream. Oh, I don't know if I want to hear this.
Nothing ever happened in real life.
Oh, hold on, nothing ever happened in real life?
Oh, I wrote her love letters and stuff and a song. Nice. Maybe two. How old were you? 16. Okay, this is where it all started, isn't it? This is where it all started. What do you mean where it all started?
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Chapter 6: How do societal trends influence housing decisions?
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Yesterday was good because Zoe came in and then I didn't find my trauma because I was listening to her stories. So maybe that's... Find your trauma.
Find your trauma. Maybe we need something. Oh, shit, we need to do a radio show. Welcome to the trauma. Thank God.
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