The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Rams Targeted Ty Simpson, Vrabel Drama Continues & Browns QB Plan + Mailbag
30 Apr 2026
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Chapter 1: Why were the Rams focused on Ty Simpson before the draft?
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Chapter 2: What ongoing drama surrounds Mike Vrabel and its implications?
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Chapter 3: What is the Cleveland Browns' plan for their starting quarterback?
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Chapter 4: What are the risks associated with Deshaun Watson's role in the Browns?
Mike Vrabel's story, God, this thing just turned into like a Bravo reality show. We have some quarterback news. Deshaun Watson can be a starting quarterback, it looks like, for the Browns. Some fifth-year options exercised on quarterbacks and Diego Pavia, as well as we'll do some mailbag questions. At John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff is the Instagram.
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Let's start with the Rams and Sean McVay, Les Snead, and their new quarterback, Ty Simpson. It has come out over the last 48 hours that Sean McVay had a secret meeting with them.
Chapter 5: How does the draft process affect team strategies and player selection?
So when Ty Simpson said post-draft that he had never talked to him, Les Snead told Pat McAfee yesterday he could have been honest. He just stuck to the script that we gave him that said, don't say a word about our interest in you and your connection to us and your meeting with us. And the one thing the Rams do a really good job of is they don't send anybody to Combine.
Pretty sure they don't send anyone to All-Star Games, and they don't send anyone to Pro Days. They don't have their people out there in the world talking. Because what do we do? Human beings, we like to talk and we like to gossip about whatever industry you're in. Think how many of you that go to conventions, especially those of you that are in bigger corporate settings, or even smaller companies,
You typically talk to other people in your industry about what you're doing, about your complaints, about things that you don't like, about things that you're doing. It's just a human connector. Football is no different than tech, is no different than the hotel industry. If you get around other people in your business, you're going to talk to them about your business.
And football's a gossipy operation. And the reality is most coaches, you can play two degrees of separation to basically everyone in the league. These guys operate in this nomadic world where they're bouncing around.
Chapter 6: What insights can we gain from the Middlekauff Mailbag?
If you've been in the league 5, 10, 20 years, you're just going to know a lot of people. And those people, when you're around each other in person, have a hard time keeping their mouth shut. That's why I go to the combine. I get a lot of good information. You go out and about. You see people. You talk to people. You have drinks with people. And words flying. No different at pro days.
The pro day isn't just showing up, going to the workout. It's getting there the night before, staying at a hotel, going out to dinner. If you know your buddy's going to be there, you meet him for dinner. Scouts, coaches, it's all the same. And the Rams have made a very conscious effort
Chapter 7: How do off-field behaviors influence NFL draft decisions?
Of avoiding that. And people in the league have different opinions on that. But there is no disputing. We can debate the player. You guys know where I stand. If you just look at it simply from an investment standpoint, the risk profile on this player, to me, is not worthy of the 13th overall pick.
Short, one-year starter, couldn't make it through the season, uninjured, doesn't have great physical traits. Now, that doesn't mean that he can't go on to be a 15-year NFL starter. Your risk profile as a draft prospect doesn't determine your success in the NFL. Where you go to college does not determine how much money you are going to make.
Now, statistically, there's an average based on where you go to college or if you don't go to college, right? There is an aggregate. Well, you're this likely if you go to USC or if you go to Cal Poly or you go to Chico State or you go to Texas A&M. But as an individual, you don't have to fall into that category. As a seventh-round pick, you are less likely to succeed than a first-round pick.
Chapter 8: What factors contribute to the success of NFL quarterbacks?
But there have been a lot of seventh-round picks that have gone on to have a decade-long career. You determine your success. Ty Simpson and the Rams will determine his success. But based on his risk profile, Dan Orlovsky... can go on ESPN.com and say, this is the best individual drive of the season. And he throws up a game against Wisconsin, who was terrible.
And every single fan wanted their coach fired. I didn't check, but I would imagine Wisconsin didn't have, did they have anyone drafted? They definitely didn't have many guys drafted. This was not the Barry Alvarez, you know, Brett Bielema, Wisconsin Badgers here.
So slicing and dicing them, what do we always talk about in draft prospects, draft profile tapes, when you work in the NFL, is the competition. I remember, it still happens, a guy could have 10 sacks. It's like, well, he had 10 sacks. He played at Missouri in the SEC. He played at Georgia. He played at Ohio State. He played wherever.
And then you're like, well, six of those sacks came against non-conference opponents, two of them FCS teams. The other four sacks came against the worst two teams in the conference. He had no production against the three top 15 programs they played. And vice versa. You can be a small school guy. I remember Khalil Mack at Buffalo. They played Ohio State, his first game, his senior year.
Pretty sure the left tackle was Taylor Decker. You're like, holy shit. That's an NFL tackle, and Khalil Mack looks like Lawrence Taylor here. Why he goes fifth overall? Now, there is a value and an unquantifiable thing with quarterbacks, right? Because like an investment, if you hit on a quarterback, it'd be like 50x-ing a stock. It changes the course of your franchise, right?
Hell, I use the 49ers example all the time. They made one of, if not the worst trade in the history of football. They traded pick 12 and two other first rounders for a quarterback that wasn't on their team two and a half years later. It doesn't get any worse. But it didn't impact them because they struck oil with Purdy in the seventh round. And he saved not only people's jobs, but the franchise.
And he makes them and gives them the ability to win games. A lot of teams, you see with the Jets and the Browns, all these teams that having these awesome drafts, getting all these players. If they don't find a quarterback, none of it's going to matter. Because I'll promise you this, the Browns these last two years, and I'm not going to be a hater, like their drafts have been awesome.
The draft last year was fantastic and this draft on paper looks fantastic. They would trade all those players for for a top 7-8 quarterback, without hesitation. They wouldn't even blink. Same with the Jets, right? And the Rams, for whatever reason, became fixated on this player. Obviously, they liked the talent, they liked the person, and they found it worthy.
And I watched Sean McVay today tell Collin, he said, don't get it twisted. If you could tell me If we draft Makai Lemon or Reuben Bain or insert non-quarterback at pick 13 and guarantee me that I'll be back in the NFC Championship or the Super Bowl, of course we would have taken them. But that's not how the world works. There's no guarantee year to year.
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