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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

Best of The Herd

10 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: Why does Colin Cowherd defend Victor Wembanyama's actions against Jalen Brunson?

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Chapter 2: What does Colin Cowherd think about the Dallas Cowboys' merchandise sales?

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Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowherd on Fox Sports Radio. World Cup starts tomorrow officially.

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NBA Finals 2-1 Knicks lead resume tonight. Welcome in. Live from Chicago, it's the Herd. So the New York Post through the years has been known for very funny headlines. And some over the top, some feel a little inappropriate. So the Knicks right now are the talk of the town. And they got pushed around by Wemby and others in game three, where tickets were going for $12,000, $15,000.

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And the New York Post has a headline today. It's like a wanted poster of Wemby on the front. It says, alias Wemby, nationality French, flagrant fouls the charge. Even soft on crime DA Bragg would find him guilty. The New York Post, a national treasure. You don't think of stoic Kareem Abdul-Jabbar as violent. You don't think of Jokic, who can't wait to get back to his homeland, as violent.

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Let me show you some video through the years of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar punching Kent Benson in the face. The year was 1977. Here comes Kareem after a cheap shot, and this pretty much ended Kent Benson's career. Yeah. Yeah. Not sure if you kids had seen that. Here's Shaq getting angry, which he occasionally did in swatting a player. Oh, I've got some Jokic video from 2021, one of the Morris brothers.

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And again, stoic guy most of the time. Yeah, why would that happen? Why would people poke the biggest, strongest guys on the court in the ribs?

Chapter 3: How does Colin Cowherd analyze the Knicks' performance in the NBA Finals?

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Because a big man, his job is to establish what they call position on the block. And the rival's job, often with the all-time great big men, they need two men. And it gets ugly and combative to fight him for that position. Guards aren't necessarily fighting for position. Forwards aren't. This is a nightly truism for Wemby, who has been fouled 30 more times than any player in the playoffs.

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Big men historically get shoved. and they absorb physical contact. It's an 82-game schedule. And then the NBA does something which actually helps ratings, but they allow more physicality in the postseason, especially the finals and the conference finals. They ratchet it up. Even the other night when Brunson hit Wembley, look to your left. What's happening?

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As Carl Anthony Towns is being thrown around a battle royale, this is the life of a big man. Minnesota, Oklahoma City chipped Wemby, shoved Wemby, hanging off Wemby. Wemby against these guys. I mean, cat yesterday, two days ago, bear hugging him. So, yes, occasionally big men retaliate. They do. It's like lions, kings of the jungle. You ever go to even a zoo? They're very stoic.

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They sleep 23 or 24 hours a day. And when they're awake, they eat, and they're very stoic. And it's interesting sometimes what bothers them, what irritates the lion. It'll be a little bird, and the lion will just swat it. Wemby was the lion. Jalen Brunson was the little bird. And he just got frustrated, and usually stoic Wemby swatted him. This is the reality of being a big man since 1972.

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Chapter 4: What insights does Channing Frye offer about the Knicks' strategy for Game 3?

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I've been watching the NBA. Dave Cowens would occasionally, you know, as a 6'8 center, an undersized center, you have to create a code of tolerance, a code of conduct. And Wemby is saying, you can start it, I'll finish it. But when your job is to gain position on the low block, and you're an all-time great, a Jokic, a Moses Malone, a Shaq, a Wemby,

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And they're sending multiple large professional athletes in your direction. And the NBA then says, we're going to be even more tolerant of physical play. Who takes the brunt of that? Not Brunson. It's Wemby. Go look at how Minnesota defended him, how the Thunder defended him. And by the way, some bigs aren't ready for it. Chet Holmgren is not quite consistently ready for it.

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Giannis initially wasn't quite ready for it. And actually, Wemby's done better than I thought, considering his frame. So I'm okay with it. It's a code of conduct. Bigs have to establish it. Sometimes it gets ugly. The New York Post front back page is funny. But here is Wemby on what he's learned this postseason. And what we've learned? I mean, many things over these playoffs. Many things.

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Brace with your hands and not with your chin. Head below the head, if you do. And many other things, but most importantly, be relentless. It should also be duly noted, when Tony Kukoc came over from Europe, the reputation of European players was a little soft. And that stigma isn't true anymore, but it was out there for a long time.

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And American players, domestic players, will test European players often more than our guys. They'll test them.

Chapter 5: What historical context does Cowherd provide about physicality in the NBA?

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And European players coming to foreign soil come to this country, and I'm going to give them a little bit of a break here. They really want to establish who they are. And, I mean, Jokic brings his brothers to the arena. Like, they ratchet it up. So you also have the reality that Wemby's young. He's 22 years old. And there's a lot of 31-year-olds in the league. So he's international. He's young.

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He's getting all this attention. He's getting Otani attention. And the NBA and the veterans, a Julius Randle here, an OG there, a Mitchell Robinson there, they're testing him. And he is passing that test with flying colors. And occasionally, the lion swatting the annoying bird. So the World Cup starts tomorrow. I can't wait. Yesterday or the day before, not sure, Landon Donovan...

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very publicly criticized American soccer. He said it's a money grab. It's not about really developing younger players. And listen, this is the home of the greatest capitalism in the earth, and that's often true. That's one of the complaints I've had with AAU basketball. It's all about everybody getting paid, tracksuit Tony getting paid, not developing our basketball players.

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That's why many of the great stars now are international and not American. They're not domestic because our feeder system is broken. But even if soccer got everything right, our academies were great, the MLS was popular. Instead of being on Apple TV where you lose all your casual viewers, got to pay to watch MLS. I don't like that.

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But even if they got it all right, they're one of five popular domestic leagues, and we have a massive college sports system that other countries don't have. We have always watched the World Cup, and we've always loved it, men's and women's, and we've always embraced it.

Chapter 6: How does Cowherd compare Wembanyama to past NBA greats?

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The numbers have always been strong, just like the Olympics. We don't love curling or downhill skiing necessarily, but we watch it. You wrap a flag around hockey and four nations or the Olympics or soccer or the Olympics, and we'll start watching stuff we don't normally watch. I mean, last night, 88,000 people showed up in Alabama to watch Messi. That's who we are.

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But every time we talk about a World Cup on American soil, here's what I hear. This is an opportunity to grow the game. And I don't see it as that. I see it as four to five weeks of fanaticism, patriotism, globalism, a great, great four to five week party. And then we will go on with our lives. And that is absolutely okay. That is not a failure. That is not a failure.

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I don't think this World Cup is about growing the game. If that happens, fine. I've heard that so many times. I don't think that's what it's about. When you go on vacation, I just was lucky enough to be with my son in Madrid. I had a blast. And then I wanted to come home. And that didn't mean Spain wasn't amazing. Right? It was just an incredible time.

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And the World Cup is an every four-year break from our, at times, tedious and monotonous sports catalog. If you have so much fun watching it, we can win a knockout stage game or two. And then you're like, all right, see you in four years. I just don't see that as a failure. I try to go to, you know, my mom is British.

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I try to go to Europe with my son, with my kids, with my wife every single summer, sometimes twice. And then when I leave, I have great memories.

Chapter 7: What are the implications of the Cowboys' lack of star players in merchandise sales?

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I don't want to live there. That doesn't mean I like Spain less just because I don't want to live there. And it doesn't mean you don't love the World Cup and soccer and and our men and women, because you still like football more, that's okay. I don't think the responsibility of the World Cup is to grow the game. Right now, the MLS, you have to pay to watch it. It's not on Fox, ESPN, NBC.

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You've got to pay to watch it. I didn't like that move by the commissioner. I still don't. There's no casuals. Let's just have a five-week celebration. Globalism, patriotism, fanaticism. And we're good. I mean, people are showing up. The tickets feel like New York Knicks Madison Square Garden prices. John Strong yesterday on the practice vibes down in Orange County.

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The stadium here in Orange County seats about 5,500 people. And from what we were told, there were about 30,000 applicants to get a ticket to sit into the public practice session. And that seemed to really, I think that combined with the great crowds in Charlotte and Chicago, I think that really started to hit home.

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What we've seen in the last 10 days has been really helpful to get these guys to understand what this is and this is real. Yeah, it's very real. We're very interested. Almost fanatical and patriotism wrapping a flag around sports that we don't normally love is just okay. But let's not create this. Well, if it doesn't grow the sport, it's a failure. It's a five-week party.

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It's a five-week vacation. Doesn't mean you don't want to go home at some point. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m.

Chapter 8: What final thoughts does Cowherd share about the upcoming games and team dynamics?

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Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the iHeartRadio app. Check us out on YouTube and subscribe. I love the sounds, the buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the place soccer, futbol, it's home. Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking me, why do I breathe? I inherited that fandom from my mom.

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I like watching it with my dad.

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It's a connecting force. From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echavarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the U.S. and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great.

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A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture.

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I took an elbow to my head, which cracked my skull. It is an American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

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Are they the only ones that don't like that?

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Actually, nobody likes that.

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