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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

THE HERD - Hour 2 - Nick Wright stops by The Herd

05 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What impressive performance did LeBron James showcase in the postseason?

0.031 - 3.576 Colin Cowherd

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.

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5.158 - 27.81 Unknown

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

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28.297 - 33.48 Unknown

Listen to Superhuman on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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34.557 - 45.287 Robert

Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fans, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes.

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45.707 - 65.692 Robert

Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of Tauntauns and Wampas on the ice planet Hoth, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of Two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.

Chapter 2: How are the Chiefs preparing to contend for Super Bowls again?

66.216 - 80.996 Clifford Taylor IV

A win is a win. I don't care what y'all saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor IV. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

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81.437 - 99.846 Clifford Taylor IV

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.

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On the Look Back At It podcast.

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101.829 - 104.613 Clifford Taylor IV

1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me.

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105.214 - 112.365 Colin Cowherd

I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of LeBron's playing style as he ages?

112.525 - 118.715 Colin Cowherd

With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.

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118.735 - 130.111 Clifford Taylor IV

It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back at It on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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130.131 - 148.804 Nick Wright

Thanks for listening to the Heard Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Heard at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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157.32 - 164.531 Nick Wright

Good stuff today. It's a Tuesday. Bulls have a new GM. Knicks hammer the Sixers.

Chapter 4: How does LeBron's basketball IQ contribute to his longevity in the league?

166.494 - 191.92 Nick Wright

Wemby and the Spurs, tough matchup with Minnesota. Knick right around the corner. So the Lakers thunder play tonight. LeBron is a 15-point underdog. Colin, it's not LeBron, it's the Lakers. Nah, it's LeBron. He's a 15-point underdog, biggest of his career. Yeah, we were talking about this yesterday. He can kind of play as long as he wants. He's such a play initiator. He's so smart.

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The question is, this is why I think J.J. Redick is a great coach for him because J.J. 's authentic. He doesn't have a filter.

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Chapter 5: What does Nick Wright say about the Lakers' chances this season?

200.189 - 221.954 Nick Wright

He's going to give you the truth. If he's upset with LeBron, LeBron respects him. And LeBron's always been that LeBron likes smart people. His handlers are smart, his agents smart, his friends are smart. He likes J.J. Redick. He likes smart people. LeBron doesn't have a lot of interest in playing with kids and teaching them how to play basketball. He loves Kevin Love or Chris Bosh or D. Wade.

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You know, he likes that. And very few young players he really likes playing with. And I think J.J. Redick is authentic. There's no filter. But I think what's fascinating about LeBron is...

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Chapter 6: What are the strengths and weaknesses of the current NBA teams discussed?

233.918 - 245.599 Nick Wright

And let's start with this. Mike Breen was on Ryan Rosillo's podcast yesterday, and what he says sounds outrageous, but I think Mike Breen is right, and he talked about LeBron's career going forward.

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The guy's been an NBA player more than half of his life, which is kind of hard to believe. And I do believe he could play for another, he's 41, he could play for another eight, nine years. And like he could come off the bench and average 18 minutes a game and give you 12, seven and five. I think he's because of his mind, his brilliant basketball mind, he could still do that.

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I actually think, I thought more four to five. I don't think it's outrageous. We've said before, some usually hyper-athletic athletes age quickly. Cam Newton. People like Jokic, where it's passing and screen setting and rebounding and shooting, you just age better. LeBron's very unique in that you get both of them. You get, I mean, he still attacks the basket in transition.

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He bullies smaller defenders, generates very good shots. His jumper's always been hit and miss.

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Chapter 7: How does the conversation shift to the future of the NBA?

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So he didn't have a great year shooting the three, but his jump shot's been hit and miss. His free throw, he's not a naturally soft, fluid shooter. He's very muscular. And a lot of bigger players, Larry Bird was an exception, where you had a big forward who was the best shooter in the league. That's very, very rare. And so my take is... For LeBron going forward, it's a mind game.

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328.744 - 355.876 Nick Wright

He's been a CEO for 20 years. He has a better resume than Rui, Luca, and Austin Reeves combined. And now you're going to ask him going forward, hey, CEO with the best resume and most brilliant mind, are you willing to just be an advisor? Are you willing to be a third option? So I think it's all mental going forward. I don't really worry about the physicality stuff. I really don't.

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Is that, you know, Tom Brady aged, but nobody said, okay, Tom, you're the backup quarterback.

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Chapter 8: What final thoughts does Colin have about the upcoming NFL season?

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Or we're going to have you play backup Ty Dander on special teams. He was still the quarterback taking the snaps. For LeBron, what you're saying with Luka, who's the number one usage rate guy in the league, is LeBron, are you going to play off-ball a lot? And LeBron's thinking, I'm in better shape than this guy. I'm stronger than this guy. I generate great shots like this guy.

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And he's a better player than Austin Reeves, who's a very good player. So I think there's a mind game going forward for LeBron. It's not the physical stuff. We all think it's the physical stuff. It's the mental stuff. Is he willing to be a third option when he's thinking, I just beat Houston largely by myself? I made Marcus Smart look nine years younger.

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DeAndre Ayton, moody DeAndre Ayton was totally focused. I mean, Rui, who's always had talent, flourished. LeBron's thinking, you sure you want me to be a third option? But I do think L.A. for business and J.J. Redick, the intellect, unfiltered, honest, secure with himself, long contract. I think Redick's a perfect coach for him. He's just a perfect coach.

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With that, Nick Wright, First Things First, is joining us. You know, the first round, I said this yesterday, Nick, is that in the history, if they write the book on LeBron and there's 20 chapters, this may not even make the book the Houston series.

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And I'm like, folks, you don't want to forget this because what we just witnessed was a far deeper, younger, athletic, I mean, Jabari Smith and Jen Goon and, I mean, Thompson, you're like, Yeah. What? I mean, I look at it, and I'm like, this is like fourth, fifth chapter. Like, early LeBron, peak LeBron, and whatever the hell, I just watched LeBron.

468.768 - 497.982 Nick Wright

and yeah i'm so i'm as a sports fan and obviously a lebron fan i'm so grateful we got this chapter you're right colin it wouldn't be in the you know first fifty pages of this book even though it was a series where in the game that essentially won the series in a ninety minute span he threw an alley-oop to his son and then had the steal in game tying three

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And then after everybody was, like, getting a little chesty in Houston, oh, they're tired, we have the momentum, all of that, LeBron put on a 40-minute 28-7-8 masterclass controlling every aspect of the game and controlling every aspect of the series. And it also gave us, Colin, two real gifts, right? one sports fans and one media fan. So let me just tell you those real quick before we move on.

529.284 - 560.271 Nick Wright

First one is, listen, I'm bummed Luka's hurt. But had Luka not been hurt, we might not have ever gotten one more series where LeBron, hand on the joystick, follow me, guys. I'll control everything. And it was so gratifying to be able to watch that. Watch him figure out the series early, adjust late, and then close it. And when he was in that Swiss Army knife role, we wouldn't have gotten that.

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So without the Luke injury, that wouldn't have been there. So that was just fun. If it is, that could be the last playoff series win of his career. Any of these could be. So for that. And then from a media perspective, if I may just quickly. It was really delightful watching the progression of folks who have been, let's call it, LeBron skeptics most of their television careers.

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