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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

THE HERD - Hour 3 - Tomorrow's Headlines Today, Josh Pate

05 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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35.182 - 58.315 Theo Henderson

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Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is, getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is, getting a new one put up in its place. I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 is about both of those things.

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As I was watching these statues come down, I was thinking about what it meant that I grew up in a majority Black city, in which there were more homages to enslavers than there were to enslaved people.

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Thanks for listening to the Heard Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and noon to 3 Eastern, 9 a.m. to noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Heard at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. You know, so I said this.

Chapter 2: What are Colin Cowherd's thoughts on Nick Saban's recent comments?

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I think Miami's a little better, but we don't know. Notre Dame's in an interesting place. And again, I'm not a traditionalist, although I do like Auburn, Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Duke, Carolina. I like it, but I think rivalries are a bit overstated. I mean, I'm going to watch Ohio State, Michigan if they play three times. I just like the game, right? I'm going to watch it.

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And we love Duke and Carolina. They play multiple times. So Notre Dame's in an interesting spot. So Notre Dame's for an expanded playoff because once USC backed out, They have one quality opponent. So let's just talk about Notre Dame. Should they join a conference, because their money is rolling in, 40 million a year, the coach is great, their schedule is atrocious.

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It is the worst schedule for any big-time team. If Notre Dame loses to Miami at home and runs the table, is there an argument that That's not a good enough schedule. I mean, where are you on Notre Dame in this whole NIL portal world and college football playoff world? There is a scenario where they get left out at 11-1. Yeah. Yeah, I think so, too.

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But that world includes wins over SMU, a win on the road against Brigham Young, who I'm very high on this year. So it wouldn't be this total G5 poverty-type strength of schedule. But you are right. It's as down as I've seen it in a long time. That's a perfect reflection of the current state we're in, where everyone's terrified to schedule a lot of conference games. I grew up in the Deep South.

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Everybody down there thinks that Notre Dame is evil for not having ever joined a conference. I used to think that. I kind of view it a little bit differently because I ask myself, what would I do if I was Notre Dame? And what I would do if I was them is exactly what they've done, which is maintain my independence and then look out the window and say, you guys are just jealous.

Chapter 3: How has college football revenue changed over the years?

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You can't do what we do. I get that viewpoint, but that was yesterday. So I've always said two things could really force their hand here. One is being left out of the playoff because of perceived imbalance in schedule. That kind of happened last year. It really could happen moving forward. And then the other one is fundamental shifts in the structure of the sport, i.e.

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the whole super conference concept. Do they have their hand forced that way? I think they ought to do exactly what they want to do and shouldn't be forced to do anything. However, understand there are consequences to those decisions. Right. Josh Pate does great work. I do have, I have Notre Dame Miami national championship. Ohio state would be my third.

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Do you have two teams that this, if you had to bet a future bet, where would you go? You left Oregon out. That's interesting. And I'm as high on Oregon. I think this is Dan's best team. Have you looked at not Dante Moore? Have you looked at their defensive line? They got that whole thing back. I mean, they got, they got Stewart back at wide receiver, DeCorean Moore's back there.

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I like, and Oregon hasn't, According to the public out there, Oregon hasn't even accomplished anything like Dan, quote unquote, hasn't won anything. And I love the spot they're in. I'm with you on Miami now. I went down there and watched them practice in the spring. I think that team's going to be better than they were last year.

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Chapter 4: What does Josh Pate think about the current state of college football?

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And they played for a national title last year, but they have upgraded at quarterback. And that wide receiver room is just like filthy, insane. But, man, this is what's fun, Colin. There are so many teams in that lead group. You mentioned Texas. You mentioned Ohio State. Georgia's still up there. There's no definitive favorite.

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I could throw half a dozen teams at you right now to where there's no definitive favorite. And then there's another group of like five or six more where if everything goes right for them, they could make it. It's going to be a great season once we finally kick it off and play football. Watch the Josh Pate College Football Show on YouTube. He's fantastic. Man, we agreed on some stuff here.

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That wasn't bad. Yeah, it was fine. It was great. I appreciate the cheese platter. All right. Josh Pate, good seeing you, buddy. See you, man. He does great work. Fantastic work. Notre Dame's in a fascinating place. You know, it's like they are kind of in a conference, but then they're independent. So it's... You know, that's not the worst thing in the world.

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You know, they've got their own private company, and then they've got a little corporate support. They've got a little ACC, and then they kind of do their own thing, and they can keep more of their money. They're in the, yeah, they're, as my staff said, they're in what the kids call a situationship. Can I tell you my dad joke the other day to my son? Can I tell you this, J Mac? You have kids.

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So my dad, it's not a joke. I said the other, when I was walking, so I left, I went with my son to Spain for a couple of days. He was in Chicago and Spain. Then I left and he went to Barcelona with a friend because he had some school. And I said, when you have kids someday, I said, you gain so much satisfaction when you're not with your kids, if they're being happy.

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If your kids are happy and you're not with them, there's just a weird feeling as a parent. It's like, it's just, it's love combined with, you know, that, you know, your kids, and I said to my son, I said, I'm gonna call that dadisfaction. And my son's like, dad, that's, don't say that out loud. It's Datisfaction. And I said, it's not a joke.

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It's just a word that I have created that's going to take over the internet. So you guys are all free to use it. When you're a parent, you're not with your kids, but you're so happy. It's Datisfaction. Do I have permission to steal that? Please. Okay, because I'm driving some kids home from school. I'm that dad who helps out at yearbook day. Oh, that's so nice.

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So I'm going to use, oh, the Datisfaction I just got. And I'm going to get looks like to stop with the cringe, dad. And then double down and go, satisfaction guaranteed. Pound the dashboard. Double down. You love that stuff, right? You lean into it. It's funny. My kids think I'm a riot. Two pros and a cup of jump.

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Dan Patrick.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of NIL deals for college athletes?

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Chapter 6: How do coaching salaries affect college football dynamics?

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We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts.

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We're starting a trend.

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But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and... Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

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We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. Oh, wow. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen.

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We don't care where you hear it. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War.

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To get to school, I had to go down Robert E. Lee Boulevard. To get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway.

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If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job.

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I'm Akilah Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky Statehouse that's actually worth the wall space.

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We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that?

Chapter 7: What challenges do teams face in the current college football landscape?

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Here's what he had to say about the Miles Garrett trade.

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At the end of the day, You got to go out there and play. Miles is the scary part is he's still a young player. So he's still going to get better. I know it's scary after seeing what he did last year. So I'm never expecting to run into the same player. I know that we see him week one in Australia. He probably will be a little bit better than he was last time I seen him.

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And, you know, just got to buckle up, man. It's going to be tough. I ain't the only one got to block him here. You know, it's 31 other teams got that same news.

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Trent Williams is awesome. He's so good. So, amazingly, he's only met Miles Garrett twice. The first time was 2023. The last time was 2025. How about this from our staff? Miles Garrett had a sack and four pressures against Trent Williams in their last meeting. And another fun stat from our staff, just on fire today, Miles Garrett had 23 sacks last year.

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The 49ers defense, like all of the guys, had 20. I mean... And Miles Garrett's facing double teams in Cleveland. I don't know, man. Listen, you know I've become a Niners guy because of Brock Purdy. I'm concerned about his health facing Miles Garrett twice. I mean, it could get ugly for the Niners this year, Colin. Yeah. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.

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And thanks for stopping by.

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The Herdline News. I saw this story. Nick Herbig's new deal with the Steelers raises obvious questions about the future of TJ Watt. Go get a first-round pick. TJ Watt gets you a first-round pick. It's not that difficult. I mean, the Giants got a top-ten pick for Dexter Lawrence offseason. And TJ Watt, I think, has more of them.

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Max Crosby, Ravens were going to give up two first-round picks for him. The Rams or the Ravens, two first-round picks. This is so weird to me. The Rams and the Eagles are so good at moving off older players. The Steelers treat older players like that T-shirt you have that you refuse to give up. Your wife's like, it's got holes all, it looks terrible. Get a new T-shirt. I can't give it up.

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They are the worst poker players in the world. So right now the Steelers have the second oldest and the most expensive defense. So their defense is second oldest and the most expensive. Nothing disqualifies you for a Super Bowl more than old and expensive defense. It's just crazy to me.

Chapter 8: Should Notre Dame join a conference for better competition?

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I like that. I mean, that graphic is incredible. Listen, the Spurs are going nowhere. Now the only thing that throws a wrinkle in this is if the Thunder ante up and go after Giannis. There are some interesting signs out there that they're not, that they're comfortable. Hey, when J-Dub comes back, we'll be fine. Guys, I don't think that's going to be enough to beat the Spurs if they're healthy.

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This Spurs team is only going to get better. Remember, is Dylan Harper going to come off the bench next year? I mean, they can move off Harrison Barnes, find another guy, and Dylan Harper becomes a starter. Maybe De'Aaron Fox comes off the bench. By the way, De'Aaron Fox is making $20 million more. than any Spurs player. Like he's good, but he's had a rough go here off the high ankle.

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Bad game one, that's for sure. This is a Spurs team that's loaded. I don't see them going anywhere. Would not be shocked if they were in like eight of the next 10 NBA finals. All right, now to off-season speculation. Tomorrow's headlines today. What's the headline for Giannis next season? Yeah, well, you know, we've made a lot of jokes about Giannis in Milwaukee.

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Remember the Dells in Milwaukee back in the day? That was funny. Colin, headline for Giannis next season will be Wisconsin nice? Doing business with you. I've got Giannis bailing on the cheddar heads for the feta heads out here in Los Angeles. He's going to eat healthy. A lot of great Greek food out here. Colin, I do think LA's in play. You can scoff, roll your eyes, mock me if you want.

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But this latest Austin Reeves report is interesting. He wants the bag. I'm telling you, like the Lakers, they're smart. They're not going to give him $240 million. Can't. That's just not happening. And this Lakers-LeBron stuff, I don't know if that's smoke. The Lakers will have the money to make a play for Giannis.

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And at that point, it's like, hey, are the draft picks enough for the role players? And Luka and Giannis together, I know we can say, what's the depth like? Colin, that pick and roll between Luka and Giannis is going to be unstoppable. I mean, it's a great duo. And frankly, the Lakers have always been big game hunting. Remember, they went out and got Shaq back in the day.

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The Lakers come out and get LeBron James. They come out and grab Luka Doncic. Remember the Nash-Dwight Howard acquisitions? Remember that? Who can forget Anthony Davis? For like three decades now, we've seen the Lakers go get the best players in the league. They make it happen. Giannis, Lakers. Love it. And finally, the headline for the King LeBron next season. I'm interested to hear this.

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This has been the sneakiest fun story all week. And we've had a banger of a week. Colin, the headline for LeBron next season will be Olden State Warriors now more unk. Then dunk. And you've got the Golden Girls there. LeBron, Butler, Draymond, and Curry. It'd be a fun watch, though. You've got to admit that. And the Warriors, you know, would save a lot of money. They don't need Gatorade.

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They can just go with Metamucil, you know, the old person drink during timeouts. I mean, listen, there's a million jokes to be made here. The Golden State Fossils. Whatever you want. Colin, this would be special. The league would put them on Christmas Day, opening night. LeBron and Curry together? Two of the best, what, 10, 11 players in the history of the sport? It would be a tremendous watch.

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