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The Herd with Colin Cowherd

What's Wright - Knicks FINALS BOUND after Cavaliers sweep + Addressing Stephen A. Smith

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

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Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite.

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127.657 - 159.159 Nick Wright

Welcome in what's right with Nick Wright episode 459 this episode of what's right with Nick Wright is presented to you by boost mobile it is sports Emmys day so a lot on my mind over the next you know 10 ish hours as I will be a presenter tonight sports Emmys and Maybe, hopefully, prayerfully, even though I'm not really the prayerful type, I could be a recipient at tonight's sports Emmys.

159.199 - 192.088 Nick Wright

I know it's not cool to admit you care, but I care an immense amount. So that's going on tonight. I also find myself, some to my own doing, and some due to a just... vivid and reckless imagination of a colleague embroiled in a far more convoluted and far more mysterious sports media beef than I could have ever expected. Little did I know

192.068 - 217.938 Nick Wright

That there's a whole cabal of people discussing the takes I should have and who I should go after and how I should time and word those attacks. I just text Demanze and Paul and Daniel and everybody in the morning like, hey, I think I'm going to do this. I didn't know there was a whole, you know, we talk on First Things First, Amonze, about the very mysterious committee that does the NFL tiers.

Chapter 2: What are Nick Wright's thoughts on the Knicks' Finals appearance?

679.153 - 716.86 Nick Wright

Game one, they beat up Atlanta. Game two, they are beating up Atlanta and then have a four-minute stretch of, wait, what the hell happened? Game three, they play a tight game. Jalen misses, CJ makes. And they're in a moment of crisis. Game 4, they beat Atlanta by 16. Game 5, they beat Atlanta by 29. Game 6, to eliminate Atlanta, they beat Atlanta by 51.

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They open the Sixers series with a 39-point victory. They then play one competitive game against Philly, beat them by 6. and then beat them by 14 to go up 3-0 in Philly, and beat them by 30 to send them home. Game one against Cleveland, they are down by 22 points with seven and a half minutes remaining. Force overtime and win by 11. Game two, they win by 16. Game three, they win by 13.

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And game four, they're up by 45 points in the fourth quarter and win by 37.

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Where's all this coming from? During the regular season, I felt like we thought they were going to be good. They kind of tapered off, seemed like they didn't have it figured out. And then now, what happened? They figured something out?

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774.261 - 815.542 Nick Wright

No one knows where this came from. Anyone telling you they know where it came from is lying. Listen, there is a way to look at the Knicks as, well, they started off the season 2-3. First couple weeks, who cares? And then absent. And then right around New Year's, they had a 2-9 swoon. Okay? So 2-3, 2-9. That's 4-13. If you remove those two bad stretches, they were 49-16. It's a really good team.

816.142 - 857.674 Nick Wright

It's a team like on a 60-ish win pace. They were this year top, I think, six in the NBA in offense and defense. They looked like a good, at times, really good team. And maybe that one swoon right around New Year's threw people off the scent that, hey, this could be a very good team. But being a very good team and putting together A month consecutive of dog walking playoff opponents.

858.936 - 882.688 Nick Wright

The way the Shaq-Kobe Lakers never did. The LeBron Wade Heat never did. The KD Steph Warriors never did. The Moses Dr. J Sixers never did. We have had teams go through a postseason with only one loss. The Knicks already have two.

883.148 - 918.49 Nick Wright

We have never had a team go through a postseason just beating the shit out of their opponent every single game to the point to where at the end the opponent cries uncle and says, I don't want to try anymore. We are not good enough. And I every single person involved deserves credit for this. Jalen Brunson

920.191 - 945.249 Nick Wright

Remember, not listen, not only is Jalen Brunson just an absolute A-list superstar in this league, which if there were any questions prior to this postseason, they are now gone. And we are going to get a bit into the Knicks game. very tortured history this century, but it is worth it.

Chapter 3: What does the Knicks' playoff dominance mean for the franchise?

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts.

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We're starting a trend.

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But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and... Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

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We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

2664.289 - 2684.593 Unknown

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.

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He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reeves, I gotta manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed.

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He has to guard Julius Randle. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on a night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history, too.

2716.433 - 2731.493 Isaiah Thomas

Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you gonna get the ball.

Chapter 4: What challenges does Cleveland face after their playoff exit?

3621.956 - 3633.053 Stephen A. Smith

He should be ashamed of himself, but I'll leave it alone. and let him hang out with his crew. And he knows that I know who they are. Okay?

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3637.079 - 3665.335 Nick Wright

Okay, so now I'm a little upset. And now I would like, as silly as this all is, I am going to eventually make a few requests here. that I mean very, very, very sincerely. But before I get to that I would like to say some things directly.

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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts.

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3682.551 - 3683.252 Nick Wright

We're starting a trend.

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But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and... Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

3706.124 - 3724.449 Unknown

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. Oh, wow. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen.

3724.469 - 3746.29 Unknown

We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy. Not quite. On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between-songs banter. Where does your group perform?

3746.391 - 3766.134 Unknown

We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up fam, it's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luka and Austin Reed.

3766.154 - 3781.663 Unknown

And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

Chapter 5: How do the Knicks compare to past NBA champions?

4378.585 - 4422.803 Nick Wright

And just made it up. If that's the case, then I would like an apology. Option two. He somehow got someone to tell him on the worst sourcing imaginable. Oh yeah, I'm part of a group that we're in a group chat telling Nick what to say about you. That's an opportunity to take you down a peg. In which case, it's just bad reporting, but that would need a retraction.

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option three would be maybe the most gifted orator in the history of the space just fumbled his message and words entirely and that's not what he was trying to say at all that would demand a clarification but what's not going to happen here and what i cannot abide is utter and complete fantasy about how and why I do what I do.

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4465.14 - 4511.785 Nick Wright

I have spent my entire career building what I do think is a rather pristine reputation for honesty with the audience for openness about what biases I may or may not have, and for not coming to any discussion without all my cards on the table. And I've managed to do it without having one of my go-to moves be what at least I think a lot of the audience perceives as

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4513.267 - 4539.291 Nick Wright

veiled threats for anyone who comes back at me about having compromat that I could reveal at any time. So I don't take that shit lightly. And I don't love that this now inevitably escalates. I hope to not discuss this again at any point. With that said,

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for a number of reasons there are not many people in the space that feel comfortable calling out what they perceive to be bad actions by contemporaries in the space and I think The playbook that I felt Stephen A was running on Jalen Brown was unfair to Jalen Brown. I don't know Jalen Brown. Never talked to Jalen Brown. My guess is Jalen Brown, if he knows me, doesn't like me.

4581.369 - 4611.991 Nick Wright

I don't even think he has any reason not to like me, but he doesn't seem to like much media. He's very anti-media. But I thought it was bullshit what happened there. And Jalen Brown, by the way, yesterday, you know, he responded. And it turns out I wasn't the only one that got that mob boss feel from Stephen A's first eight comments, because this is what Jalen Brown had to say.

4612.411 - 4617.797 Stephen A. Smith

Jalen Brown, be careful what you wish for. You really want me to start reporting on that level?

4618.918 - 4654.581 Nick Wright

Come on, man. Come on, Stephen A. You know, Chapo. You running the media cartel, my boy? Come on, man. Talking about be careful. Man, listen. I ain't even going to get into that, y'all. Yeah, I mean... Well done there by Jalen Brown. I mean, okay. So I just... And I also would like to issue one apology here. I would like to apologize...

4655.219 - 4712.985 Nick Wright

to my friends and colleagues that want to be switzerland in this all of a sudden you know i guess media beef that i'm putting in a bad spot i feel badly about that genuinely and if you're upset with me because of it i understand but I could not allow the timeline of me, and I thought the most respectful manner possible, criticizing someone for vague, anonymized information

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