In this conversation, Brandon Turner shares his journey from a blue-collar background to becoming a successful real estate investor and entrepreneur. He discusses the importance of focusing on one's primary business before diversifying into real estate, the various ways to make money in real estate, and the significance of personal branding. Turner also highlights the challenges faced by many real estate educators who may not actively invest anymore and emphasizes the importance of trust and commitment in both personal and professional relationships. The discussion touches on the mindset of wealthy individuals and their desire to give back to the community, as well as the need for entrepreneurs to stay focused on their business growth and stability. Don’t forget to register for Tommy’s event, Freedom 2025! This is the event where Tommy’s billion-dollar network will break down exactly how to accelerate your business and dominate your market in 2025. For more details visit freedomevent.com 00:00 The Real Estate Dilemma 02:54 Brandon Turner's Journey into Real Estate 06:06 Understanding Real Estate Investment Strategies 08:59 The Mechanics of Real Estate Profitability 11:57 The Role of Personal Branding in Real Estate 14:51 The Guru Cycle in Real Estate Education 18:09 The Importance of Trust and Commitment 21:06 Navigating the Challenges of Entrepreneurship 23:51 The Mindset of Wealth and Giving Back 26:56 The Power of Focus in Business 30:07 The Importance of Business Growth and Stability 33:22 The Plague of Mediocrity 37:17 Building a Personal Brand to Attract Talent 39:28 Hiring Strategies for Success 42:02 Navigating Entrepreneurial Challenges in Hiring 44:31 Investment Strategies and ROI 48:12 Raising Capital in a Competitive Market 51:08 Leveraging Personal Branding for Growth 53:38 Common Pitfalls in Building a Personal Brand 58:23 The Key to Consistency and Success
Chapter 1: What is Brandon Turner's journey into real estate?
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Today we have Brandon Turner, this guy is a legend. Brandon's an expert in real estate marketing investments. He's the founder of Open Door Capital and previous host of Bigger Pockets podcast, which is probably the largest podcast for real estate. Um, he's the bestselling author of several books, including the book on rental property investing and how to invest in real estate and more.
Chapter 2: How can you make money in real estate?
Brian, what's going on today, brother?
Dude, I am. I'm so pumped and honored to be here. I gotta tell you when I, when you came on my show and you came on the better life podcast, I've interviewed 500 plus people in my life. That was one of my favorite, if not my favorite episodes I've ever done. I'm not, I'm not just blowing smoke either. It was such a phenomenal time talking to you. how do I get into this guy's world more?
So when you invited me on here, man, that was an honor. So thank you for having me.
Yeah, man, you've done a lot in your life. And it's kind of interesting to me because don't take this the wrong way, but I just couldn't live in Hawaii. There's people that would give their life. Like, that is their mecca. And I get it. I just... But that's not where I wanted to start. I wanted to go into like, what got you into business? What got you into real estate?
Chapter 3: What role does personal branding play in real estate?
What got you into podcasting? What are you up to today? What do you look forward to in the future?
Yeah, man, that's great. Okay, yeah, so let me tackle the Hawaii thing. You're 100% right. I actually struggle with it too. You know, it's kind of everyone's dream. It's like, oh, I wanna get financial freedom so I can go live on a beach. Like that's like a common like theme that people have. And I'll tell you, I mean, it's cool, but what do they call that? The hedonic treadmill, right?
Like no matter how good something in life is, it becomes normal really quick. And so Hawaii is just normal, but more inconvenient, right? Like it's six hours to do anything. So we spend about half the year
off island maybe maybe a third of the year to half the year off island so uh yeah it's just it's interesting like yeah people who have that whole goal is just to retire like man if you can retire early like you won't retire early you can't like it's just like the ironic nature of things you just couldn't do it you couldn't just sit around so anyway so yeah my story let me go back i got kind of a few phases and you can feel free to interrupt me in uh
Chapter 4: What is the guru cycle in real estate education?
Ask questions anywhere. I mean, blue collar Midwest family. I grew up in Minnesota. My dad's a butcher. Mom did daycare in our house. So very like lower blue collar. You know, went to college, kind of worked my way through five different colleges, trying to stay at a student loan debt, a bunch of community colleges and all that.
06, 07.
They were just throwing mortgages at anybody. So like, hey, 18 year old kid with no credit, no income, get a mortgage. And so I got one, bought a house and then I sold it. I first rented out all the bedrooms and I sold it. And I was like, shoot, I just made like 25 grand. Like 25 grand was more money than any person I'd ever known had ever made on anything.
Like that was such a tremendous amount of money. And I was like, this real estate thing is kind of cool. I mean, the starting salary for a lawyer was only like 50K if you didn't get in one of the top schools. So I'm like, maybe I'll just do the real estate thing. So that's what I did. I jumped in and just started buying little, just dumpy, crappy little houses.
Chapter 5: Why is trust and commitment important in real estate?
And my wife and I would just fix them up and you know, be at the painting the unit till two in the morning and renting it out to a tenant the next morning at 8am. And it was just like, just chaos for a few years as we just struggled to hit that like financial freedom number. But you know, we did it by 27. I was retired.
And yeah, I watched a lot of Law and Order for a few months before realizing that retirement wasn't for me. And I jumped back into kind of the next phase, which ended up becoming the internet entrepreneurship phase. But anything you want to go in on that before I move on?
Well, I still feel like you're kind of in the real estate world. I mean, you're just more of a guru now, and I think you've become more of an influencer, but you're still... doing real estate.
Chapter 6: What challenges do entrepreneurs face in hiring?
Yeah. When I started teaching real estate online, I hit 27. I had 30 rental units making three or four grand a month. And I'm like, I don't need to do real estate anymore. I'm done. So I just sat on a couch, watched Law & Order, and I started blogging on the internet. That turned into getting basically a job.
I mean, there was equity there, but it was a job working for BiggerPockets, which was a tiny little website with no employees at the time. I jumped at that. We started the podcast, Josh and I, who was the only, I mean, he's the founder. He was a guy who had a blog in his basement. And together we started the podcast and it just blew up.
It ended up becoming, yeah, like you said, one of the bigger podcasts in the world, 100 plus million downloads. But yeah, the idea of the guru, right? Like the real estate investor who's out there selling education and not actually doing it. That always plagued me. So I always made sure I was still investing a little bit. And then I remember, I actually remember the exact spot I was.
I was on stage at this big conference. There was a thousand syndicators, big real estate investors with thousands of units. And they're out there in the audience. And here I am on stage with my 30, 35 units, something like that. And the only reason I was there is because I had a big podcast, a big mouth, and I could help sell tickets. I didn't deserve to be on that stage.
And I remember just thinking that like, shoot, I do not deserve to be here. And I made a commitment that day. I was like, I want to be back here someday and deserve it. So I went home and I... I jumped into real estate heavy, uh, built a company, hired a bunch of employees.
We can talk about that, that process made a bunch of mistakes, but ended up acquiring, uh, just, we just crossed the billion dollar mark. So 13,000 units, a billion dollars, we've raised 350, $400 million, uh, just from normal people, uh, across the internet and across the world. And, uh, yeah, hired 150 employees in that, uh, That's where I am today. So now I'm running.
I'm not doing the podcast, The Bigger Pocket's one anymore because it wasn't mine. I mean, at the end of the day, it was somebody else's. It ended up being private equity, and that's great for them. I love the team. But, you know, I'm an entrepreneur at heart. So started a new podcast, started still buying real estate, going to buy probably $40 million this year. And, yeah, that's my story, man.
I got a lot of questions. Yeah. Let's dig in. So you explain to me, how do you make money in real estate? There's so many different, you know, I was involved with highest cash offer, Jared Carlos Reyes back in the day, Hillary, like Danielle, smart people that have done well in the real estate industry. But I know there's people that are like, I'm trying to think.
I know a lot of the guys, they would buy all my leads. And there was times we were getting 100 leads a day, and I know the guys that said they had such a high conversion rate, they never asked for a refund. See, I've had the... the greatest honor of knowing some of the best people in that because they knew how to do business. And so they never asked for a refund.
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Chapter 7: How can personal branding attract talent?
Chapter 8: What mindset do wealthy individuals have about giving back?
It ended up becoming, yeah, like you said, one of the bigger podcasts in the world, 100 plus million downloads. But yeah, the idea of the guru, right? Like the real estate investor who's out there selling education and not actually doing it. That always plagued me. So I always made sure I was still investing a little bit. And then I remember, I actually remember the exact spot I was.
I was on stage at this big conference. There was a thousand syndicators, big real estate investors with thousands of units. And they're out there in the audience. And here I am on stage with my 30, 35 units, something like that. And the only reason I was there is because I had a big podcast, a big mouth, and I could help sell tickets. I didn't deserve to be on that stage.
And I remember just thinking that like, shoot, I do not deserve to be here. And I made a commitment that day. I was like, I want to be back here someday and deserve it. So I went home and I... I jumped into real estate heavy, uh, built a company, hired a bunch of employees.
We can talk about that, that process made a bunch of mistakes, but ended up acquiring, uh, just, we just crossed the billion dollar mark. So 13,000 units, a billion dollars, we've raised 350, $400 million, uh, just from normal people, uh, across the internet and across the world. And, uh, yeah, hired 150 employees in that, uh, That's where I am today. So now I'm running.
I'm not doing the podcast, The Bigger Pocket's one anymore because it wasn't mine. I mean, at the end of the day, it was somebody else's. It ended up being private equity, and that's great for them. I love the team. But, you know, I'm an entrepreneur at heart. So started a new podcast, started still buying real estate, going to buy probably $40 million this year. And, yeah, that's my story, man.
I got a lot of questions. Yeah. Let's dig in. So you explain to me, how do you make money in real estate? There's so many different, you know, I was involved with highest cash offer, Jared Carlos Reyes back in the day, Hillary, like Danielle, smart people that have done well in the real estate industry. But I know there's people that are like, I'm trying to think.
I know a lot of the guys, they would buy all my leads. And there was times we were getting 100 leads a day, and I know the guys that said they had such a high conversion rate, they never asked for a refund. See, I've had the... the greatest honor of knowing some of the best people in that because they knew how to do business. And so they never asked for a refund.
They never said the leads are down. They didn't care. There was one of their lead sources. You know what I mean? It was like that was one of their lead sources out of 100. And they were just like, yeah, we'll pay. It's good. So I guess how do you and what's your investment portfolio strategy?
Yeah, man. So, I mean, like you said, there's a lot of ways to make money in real estate, right? Like early on, the way that I usually teach it for those who are just like not super familiar with how real estate investing works, there's like four primary ways you make money, right? There's cashflow. This is true for business too, I suppose.
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