The Home Service Expert Podcast
Keep Them Coming Back with Proven Client Retention Strategies
Fri, 15 Nov 2024
Ismael Valdez is the Owner and CEO of Nexgen Air Conditioning Heating and Plumbing, a $100 million Southern California company that highlights superior customer service, data efficiency, and a highly-trained staff of technicians and contractors. From initially working as a “counter guy” at a wholesale distributor to expanding his own HVAC company, Ismael has emerged as one of the most innovative figures in the home services sector. Travis Ringe is the President of ProSkill Plumbing, Heating & Air, which was established in 2008 by Travis and his brother Tyler, who both grew up in a family of tradesmen. In this episode, we talked about customer feedback, client retention strategies, service efficiencies...
Chapter 1: What are effective client retention strategies?
Don't always go to your technician, your installer, your manager, because you're not going to get all the raw information that you should be getting. You should always talk to the consumer, especially in the early stages of doing business when you have less than 10 people.
Your ass should be on the phone with the consumer finding out what's wrong with it because the reviews are telling you what's wrong inside the operation. The reviews are giving you a glimpse of giving you insight of the operation that you're not seeing. That's why people are going in there and obviously complaining of it, right?
And our jobs as entrepreneurs, our CEOs and operators is to pay attention to the consumer and pay attention to what they're saying.
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All right, guys, welcome back to the Home Service Expert. Today, I got two of my great friends, Travis Ringen, Ishmael Valdez, Tom Howard. Unfortunately, couldn't make it. Not the first, not the last time. Ishmael is a pro when it comes to... Actually, Ishmael's best trait is definitely recruiting. He is a beast. And Travis is just really analytical.
He puts his mind to something, he'll figure it out. How are you guys doing?
Good, Thomas. Thank you for inviting us, buddy. And congratulations on your podcast.
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Chapter 2: How can businesses adapt to changing consumer behavior?
When something goes wrong in my alarm, right? I have ADT, you probably have Bell or whatever other. When something goes wrong with it, I go to the panel and if something's wrong, the numbers right there, the logos right there, the company information is right there. That's the one part that as me and Travis and Tom and obviously yourself too came in.
That's the one part that we wanted to solve because that's where the contractor loses the control of the consumer. They go to the thermostat, it doesn't work. And then they go on search and then search does whatever they do. And they just pawn that lead to whoever bids better, right? And that's the problem that we wanted to solve. And that's where the original concept of Nuvec came about.
I think there's something there that I really like about Nuve, too, is being able to turn the unit on before summer hits, being able to test the stuff. Because typically, the one hot day in whatever city or state you're in, you go to hit it and it doesn't turn on. You get flooded with calls. This allows you to kind of test before that day.
And I wouldn't, you know, I would challenge this one that like it is just a regular thermostat, but there's features there that are really a benefit to the end user, which is the customer, right? The homeowner. You know, the remote testing that you're alluding to, I know, you know, if my wife and I have to schedule an appointment, it's like, well, who's going to be home?
You know, what's your schedule look like? The remote testing avoids another visit in the home, right? And then the remote monitoring that we can see, you know, live and historical data, we can pinpoint issues, the ability to get ahead of problems. You know, if that system breaks, the contractor can proactively reach out to the customer and say, hey, you know, I know you're at work.
I know you're at dinner. You're out of town. but we're going to alert on your system. We need to get you set up. You're a VIP in our system. We need to get you set up for an appointment as soon as possible.
So there's a lot of benefits that come from it, but we did design it to be a look that customers are familiar with something they want in their home and to function like a normal thermostat day to day.
I love it. I love it. So all this data, all this stuff, it's, it's, there's a lot of things coming out right now in the home service space. And, uh, I think what you guys are just trying to do is keep it simple. You're trying to make sure that they're aware and just look at the data. So what are some of the things you guys can notice that is going to be an issue from the data?
So looking at the runtime on the units, we're able to see like, hey, if we do these remote testings when it's 80 degrees outside and we'll test out the unit for 15 minutes and be able to see like, is it pulling down the temperature or is it pulling up? Just with that data, we're able to see like, hey, the unit's running efficiently or no, it needs somebody to get out there.
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Chapter 3: What role does customer feedback play in business operations?
Raise the value. You know, Lance Bachman, I listened to a Instagram post he did. And he's like, dude, at last freedom event, Tommy Mello was saying, raise your prices 10%. We went back and we raised everything and every one of his businesses, 10%. We lost two clients total out of everything. And that's, what's crazy is like, there's a certain lid on that though. I think we all know there's like,
And I don't raise my prices like, you know, Tom told me, he's like, every time I raise my prices, two things that was like really stood out was like my garbage disposals cost like three grand. He's like, that was a mistake because like there's certain things you could get at Home Depot and Ace Hardware.
Capacitors and garbage disposals.
Those ones are tough that you could just Google it. But that reminds me. So if there was something like a Nuve, but not the contract that didn't give all the insights, I guess it would be comparable to a Nest as far as you could go on your phone. You can look at the temperature. You can adjust the temperature.
Why would anybody in HVAC across North America, why would they still buy Nests over Nuve?
Because we are the first... I mean, why not buy Nuve?
Because we are... Why not buy it or why buy it? Why would they even be thinking about... It's almost a rhetorical question, right?
Thermostat built for contractors by contractors. Obviously, Nest, Ecobee, these guys totally tuned the contractor out when they were out. They went straight to the consumer. But contractors are the largest installer of thermostats in the nation, right? So why cut them out? So that's really another thing, just a problem that we saw. Nuve had all these warranty issues.
They came to the contractors. In 2018, Nest had... 2018-19, Nest flew me out. It was me, Service Champions, Bell Brothers, Bill from ASI. It was like five of the top contractors in California in 2018. They flew us all out to Google headquarters and they had...
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Chapter 4: How can companies innovate in a competitive market?
Well, you did, but you stole like literally... I didn't steal. Whatever you want to call it. You got great guys and you gave them more flexibility. Like Daniel, he doesn't have to work as much. You gave him a more flexible schedule. And yes, that's how I started A1 really was 2015. Even though I'd already been in business for years, I got a guy from Precision. But this guy was a really good guy.
He didn't like selling parts for like that. So we taught him how to sell more parts, get better warranty, show up the same day with a branded truck. And he taught me a lot. He taught me all about this profiling and everything else. And I think both work. And I don't have a favorite. I think you got to mix both.
The problem that most people do is that they only recruit when they need to or when they think they need to. Recruiting is a 365 job. When I was heavily involved in that next gen, there wasn't one day that I was like, oh, today I'm going to recruit. Every day. Day. You never let a good person.
There was never a day that I wasn't texting somebody, calling somebody, trying to get more sales guys, trying to get more installers, trying to get more technician. If I heard somebody was doing good at another company, I would figure out a way to get in their Facebook, their Instagram, figure out a way to who they were and start talking to them.
So the problem is most people, most companies only recruit when they think they need to. And recruitment is a full time job. job that has to be done no matter if you're slow, if you're super busy, doesn't matter. You just have to keep doing it.
Well, especially, like, people are like, I just don't have enough business to recruit, but their booking rate's at 68%. So you should be recruiting a CSR. Yeah, there you go. And if your top guys are not getting great jobs, your dispatcher's probably not doing their job correctly, so you should be recruiting a dispatcher. And, you know, Leland made it very obvious that he cares more.
He goes, listen, even if I take a zero profit job to get 40% off, I'd have to keep my install trucks working. Those installers need to make their bread, too. They gotta make money. And I just really, dude, I've hung out with Leland a couple of times, but just hearing like, it's like Ron Smith. It's like Paul Kelly.
It's like those guys, they might be not as into the new technology, but their stuff is tried and true. And it's been tried and true for a long, long time. And they've just got their principles and they don't sway off their principles. And I mean, look, Service champions is very, very well. I mean, in the scheme of things, looking at every company, he's probably the most consistent.
It doesn't have swings. It doesn't go way up and way down. It's just right down the middle. And he doesn't look for this rapid growth. He also doesn't have rapid drops.
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