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The Indo Daily

Peter Thiel: The tech billionaire who says the Antichrist is among us 

19 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: Why is Peter Thiel warning about the Antichrist?

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24.331 - 28.276 Joe Malloy

Hey there, we are Indosport with me, Joe Malloy. We cover sport and we have things like this.

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If you ask Arsenal's defenders, Gabriel and Saliba, to play in that PSG team or that Bayern team, they would be exposed as much as those centre-backs were last night. Because effectively, the attackers were on top. Then you ask the question, how many defenders were actually on the pitch last night? Because none of the full-backs have no interest in defending. They're like wingers.

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And I've seen Saliba and Gabriel in an open game in that League Cup semi-final doubleheader against Newcastle last season get torn apart by Izak. I won't have anyone convince me that they can defend in that space.

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56.016 - 65.375 Adrian Weckler

This is an Irish Independent Podcast. Today's IndoDaily comes courtesy of our sister podcast, The Big Tech Show, with Adrian Weckler.

66.798 - 101.689 Massimo Faggioli

Because they are scared by the Antichrist, which Thiel has identified, the Green Movement, Greta Thunberg, the progressive left, and so on. So they have a common enemy. What's happening, I believe, now and from now on is a yawning gap between this techno-right and the expectations of the traditional Catholic or conservative religious right to be reassured

102.445 - 128.993 Massimo Faggioli

about the real historical enemies of them, which are abortion, which is gender, and so on, against which Thiel and that kind of technocrats, they're not very interested in that. But certainly Peter Thiel, he represents exhibit A of a certain connection between business and technology and politics and religion.

136.077 - 159.401 Adrian Weckler

Hello, and you're welcome to The Big Tech Show with me, Adrian Weckler. Now, why is Peter Thiel, the billionaire master of the universe, who is behind half of Silicon Valley's biggest companies, so interested and concerned about the coming of the Antichrist? And did his recent lecture tour on the topic in Rome, just a few steps away from the Vatican, pass muster with actual scholars?

159.962 - 177.614 Adrian Weckler

Well, Dr. Massimo Fagioli is professor in ecclesiology at the Loyola Institute at Trinity College, Dublin. Originally from Italy, he's worked extensively in the US and has written multiple books and essays about Catholicism. He's currently writing another one on the history of the Roman Curia and the Vatican.

Chapter 2: How does Thiel's view connect technology and religion?

478.167 - 500.648 Massimo Faggioli

as the only thing that can save us, us, that for him means a small group of people, of course, not as a planet, not as a one human family, right? And so there is a view of that anything that wants to slow down technology, that wants to slow down AI, right?

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501.286 - 538.492 Massimo Faggioli

or gathering of data as something that can reassure us, but actually it's slowing down the role of technology of giving us salvation to the extreme that I've heard from some people that they think that the next revelation from God after the one that came from Jesus, the next revelation will come from AI. So AI as the voice of God. That is a directly religious idea.

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538.532 - 563.626 Massimo Faggioli

And of course, for them, anything that... is between us and the development is Antichrist, because that wants to stop that salvific development. That is very much part of how America looks at the future, where for a certain American mind, only technology can deliver us from evil.

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565.027 - 568.671 Adrian Weckler

It rhymes pretty nicely with the business case for some of his companies.

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569.596 - 609.764 Massimo Faggioli

Well, yes, that's not a disinterested case. There is a very clear alignment between what he's trying to sell us philosophically and where his investments are. That's not surprising, but it is surprising the appeal and the fact that it had on some level on a certain kind of Catholic intellectuals and elites in the United States that are particularly sensitive to this.

610.184 - 620.24 Massimo Faggioli

And it has been interesting to see how different Catholic cultures have reacted to this. Some can be more convincible than others.

620.461 - 623.065 Adrian Weckler

So do you mean to say that some have been receptive to this?

623.385 - 660.167 Massimo Faggioli

Absolutely, yes. Because they are scared by the Antichrist, which still has identified the Green Movement, Greta Thunberg, the progressive left, and so on. So they have a common enemy. What's happening, I believe, now and from now on is a yawning gap between this techno-right and the expectations of the traditional Catholic or conservative religious right to be reassured

660.907 - 688.618 Massimo Faggioli

about the real historical enemies of them, which are abortion, which is gender, and so on, against which Thiel and that kind of technocrats, they're not very interested in that. But certainly Peter Thiel, he represents exhibit A of a certain connection between business and technology and politics and religion, which is

Chapter 3: What is the traditional definition of the Antichrist in theology?

1662.91 - 1671.418 Adrian Weckler

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1671.871 - 1676.157 Joe Malloy

Hey there, we are Indosport with me, Joe Malloy. We cover sport and we have things like this.

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If you ask Arsenal's defenders, Gabriel and Saliba, to play in that PSG team or that Bayern team, they would be exposed as much as those centre-backs were last night. Because effectively, the attackers were on top. Then you ask the question, how many defenders were actually on the pitch last night? Because none of the full-backs have no interest in defending. They're like wingers.

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And I've seen Saliba and Gabriel in an open game in that League Cup semi-final doubleheader against Newcastle last season get torn apart by Izak. I won't have anyone convince me that they can defend in that space.

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