The Insider Travel Report Podcast

How You Can Sell a Dream Yacht Charter Worldwide

12 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Chuck Palmer, manager-Americas for Dream Yacht Worldwide, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about his charter company offering yac...

How You Can Use RateHawk for All Your Booking Needs

11 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Ron Fenska, vice president and head of North America for RateHawk, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about his B2B travel booking ...

Why Natalya Leahy and Her Team Are Celebrating at Lindblad Expeditions

09 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Natalya Leahy, CEO of Lindblad Expeditions, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her first year on the job, which resulted in r...

How InteleTravel’s Ambassador Program Helps Advisors Succeed

08 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Eileen Ross, an InteleTravel ambassador advisor, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report at Quest, the InteleTravel national conference at the H...

How One Advisor Built a Big Travel Business with InteleTravel

06 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jamie Tarr, owner of Jamie’s Vacation Experience and an InteleTravel ambassador advisor, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report at Quest, Int...

How Tickitto Allows Travel Advisors to Get Into the Event Booking Business

05 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Dana Lattouf, founder and CEO of Tickitto, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report the InteleTravel national conference in Punta Cana, about how...

How InteleTravel Grew to $1.5 Billion in Sales

04 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Tara Minson, president of InteleTravel, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report about the host agency's $1.5 billion in global travel sales, its...

Why InteleTravel Launched BusinessTravel.com for Advisors

03 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Kim Andreello, vice president of corporate development and strategy for InteleTravel and president of BusinessTravel.com, talks with Alan Fine of Insi...

Discover the Luxury Salterra Resort in South Caicos

01 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report gives you a complete tour of Salterra Resort & Spa, a member of the Luxury Collection, which opened a y...

Sponsored Interview: How Sandals Is Building Caribbean with New Resorts, New Investment and Advisors

27 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Gary Sadler, executive vice president of sales and industry relations for Unique Vacations, sales representative for Sandals and Beaches, shares how g...

How a New Explora Journeys Campaign Rethinks Luxury Travel at Sea

27 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Anna Nash, president-global for Explora Journeys, and Chris Austin, president-North America, talk with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at t...

Discovering Family Adventure at Salterra Resort in South Caicos

26 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Joe Plant, director of adventures, and Anna Zuke, director of conservation and experiences at the year-old Salterra Resort & Spa on South Caicos i...

Finding New Luxury at Rock House in Turks & Caicos

25 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Frank Chantoiseau, general manager of Rock House, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about his luxury resort on Providenciales in t...

Virtual Roadshow Spotlight: How to Track Luggage So It Gets to That Expedition.

24 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

How can you get your clients to keep track of their luggage to their expedition cruise or adventure tour destinations so they don’t lose it? Blue Ri...

How Duncan Greenfield-Turk Rose to Fame as a Top Ranked Travel Advisor

24 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Duncan Greenfield-Turk, owner of Global Travel Moments, talks with James Shillinglaw about how he achieved success as part of Global Travel Collection...

Virtual Roadshow Spotlight: How a Top Resort Can Deliver a True Adventure Experience

23 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Marc Murphy, director of sales at Marival Resorts, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about how a top resort group can deliver an a...

Why It’s Still All Systems Go with Avanti

23 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Paul Barry, CEO of Avanti Destinations, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about how his FIT specialist tour operator remains focus...

Why You Should Go to the Biggest Cruise Show in the World

20 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Chiara Giorgi, director of Seatrade Cruise Global, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her massive cruise show and conference ...

rtual Roadshow Panel: How Should Advisors Be Selling Polar Expedition Cruises Today?

19 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Top polar expedition cruise executives tell you what differentiates their cruise products and how to sell them to your clients. They detail the polar ...

Discover Doni Belau’s Girl’s Guide to the World

19 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Doni Belau, founder of Girl’s Guide to the World, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her women-only boutique tour provider....

Virtual Roadshow Panel: How to Sell a Great Adventure Tour Experience

19 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Top adventure travel operators keep coming up with new ways to explore exotic destinations. This panel examines the products in the market today and h...

What Scenic Group’s New Rewards Program Means for You and Your Clients

18 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Robert Castro, vice president of marketing for Scenic Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about his company’s new Scenic &a...

Virtual Roadshow Panel: What Makes for the Perfect Adventure Travel Destination?

18 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Top destination executives tell you about the adventure travel opportunities in their countries that you can sell. They detail the places, the kinds o...

Who’s Heading Up Vacations at Internova’s Vacation Group

16 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jacqueline Dobson, president of the Vacation Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report in a post-Internova PLUS meeting interview t...

What Makes for a Great Expedition Cruise Today Beyond the Poles

16 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

There’s a new kind of cruise emerging known as the exploration cruise, where guests visit remote islands, out of the way countries, off-the-beaten p...

What Makes for a Great Adventure Tour Today

15 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Top adventure travel operators keep coming up with new ways to explore exotic destinations. This panel examines the products in the market today and h...

How Hilton Aruba Is Adding The Westerly Boutique

15 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jerome Luciani, general manager of Hilton Aruba Caribbean Resort & Casino, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about how his pro...

How Riu Hotels Reopened All Seven Jamaica Resorts After the Storm

13 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Niurka Garcia Linton, director of sales for Riu Hotels & Resorts in Jamaica, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report about the company’s s...

How Travel to Ireland Will be Marketed in 2026

13 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Alison Metcalf, executive vice president -North America, Australia & New Zealand tor Tourism Ireland, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Trav...

How Maud Bailly Has Restored the Sofitel Hotel Brand

12 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Maud Bailly, CEO of Sofitel, MGallery and Emblems, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at the newly renovated Sofitel New York about...

Why Top Travel Advisors Say Jamaica Is Ready for Visitors

12 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Syreeta Grose, owner of Grose Travel Services Meetings & Events; McKenzie Kellogg, marketing and IC manager at 417 Travel; and Jessica Church, own...

Henry Gilroy

10 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Exploring Ethiopia’s Omo Valley Wildlife and Tribal Cultures

10 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Aziz Ahmed, owner of Nu Ethiopia Tour And Travel and a wildlife photographer, talks with Michaela Guzy of Insider Travel Report about immersive travel...

Rediscover “The Glorious Playground” of Gleneagles

10 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Conor O'Leary, managing director of The Gleneagles Hotel, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report, at the Internova PLUS luxury travel c...

Why Travel Leaders Is an Essential Part of Internova’s Luxury Portfolio

10 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Eva D'Amato, senior director-leisure sales for Travel Leaders Network (TLN), talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at the Internova PL...

What to Know About “In the Know” Today

09 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Ragan Stone, senior vice president of In The Know Experiences (ITKE), talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at the Internova PLUS luxu...

Get a Peek at the Luxurious New Rosewood Amsterdam

09 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Thomas Harlander, managing director of the Rosewood Amsterdam, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at the Internova PLUS luxury trav...

How Global Travel Collection Helps Advisors Be Successful Travel Sellers

06 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Simon Brooks, senior vice president of advisor success for Global Travel Collection (GTC), talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at la...

How ALG Vacations Is Supporting Jamaica’s Recovery Through Voluntourism

06 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jacki Marks, global head of trade brands for ALG Vacations, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report about the company’s largest voluntourism e...

How Internova Is Building Up Its In-Country, Tour and Villa Partners

05 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Haisley Smith, senior vice president-partner relations for Internova Travel Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last week’...

Inside Fairmont’s Reopening of Cape Grace Hotel in Cape Town

05 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Leon Meyer, general manager of Cape Grace Hotel, talks with Michela Guzy of Insider Travel Report about the hotel’s reopening, its redesign under Fa...

How Internova’s Hotel Collections Help Support Luxury Advisors

04 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Dennis Grunden, vice president-hotel programs for Internova Travel Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last week’s Inter...

What Internova Is Building for Its Luxury Travel Advisors

03 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Albert Herrera, executive vice president-partner relations for Internova Travel Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last w...

How to Sell Africa Across Eight Countries with Africa’s Eden

02 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jillian Blackbeard, founder of Africa’s Eden, talks with Michaela Guzy of Insider Travel Report about the private-sector tourism organization repres...

Why Internova’s Top Luxury Advisors Met in Scotland at Gleneagles

02 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

J.D. O'Hara, CEO of Internova Travel Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about last week’s Internova PLUS gathering of top ...

How Saudi Arabia Is Emerging as a Global Tourism Power

02 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

His Excellency Ahmed bin Aqil Al-Khateeb, Minister of Tourism of Saudi Arabia, talks with Michaela Guzy of OTPYM about the country’s rapid emergence...

What Skift Data Says About the Future of Travel

30 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Seth Borko, head of research at Skift, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report during Skift’s conference about global travel megatrends, separ...

What’s Behind AmaWaterways New Campaign and Brand Refresh

29 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Catherine Powell, CEO of AmaWaterways, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her luxury river cruise line’s recently launched ...

How to Sell the New Atlas Adventurer Expedition Yacht

29 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Kristian Anderson, executive vice president-global sales for Atlas Ocean Voyages, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at the Explore...

Discover Atlas Ocean’s Stunning New Sailing Yacht

27 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

James Rodriquez, president and CEO of Atlas Ocean Voyages, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at the Explorer’s Club in New York ...

How Brand g Caters to the Luxury LGBTQ+ Traveler

27 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike Mumford, general manager of Brand g Vacations, talks with James Shillinglaw of insider Travel Report about his company’s line of vacation produ...

Find Your Santorini Paradise with Santo Collection

27 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Faye Papaioannou, senior marketing & PR manager, for Santo Collection, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her company’s...

How Jamaica Used Hurricane Melissa to Rebuild Tourism

26 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Edmund Bartlett, Jamaica’s minister of tourism, talks with Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report about how his country used Hurricane Melissa as an opp...

A Moving Visit to Ypres and the Flanders Fields Museum

25 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Peter Slosse, head of Visit Ypres and his trade marketing representative talk with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report on our tour of Flanders ...

Discover the Oldest Brewery in Bruges

23 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Anne Vanneste, co-owner of De Halve Maan (Half Moon), Bruges' oldest continuous brewery, talks with James Shillinglaw about her family-owned company, ...

How to Sell Windstar’s Newly Christened Star Seeker

23 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Janet Bava, chief commercial officer for Windstar Cruises, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report in PortMiami just before the christen...

Chris Prelog Talks About Windstar’s New Star Seeker

22 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Chris Prelog, president of Windstar Cruises, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report on the day the brand’s new Star Seeker was christ...

Exploring the Wonderful Medieval Town on Bruges

22 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Tom Pieters, our private guide from Visit Flanders, takes James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report on a tour of the medieval town of Bruges, with it...

A Status Report on Travel Leaders Network and Its Travel Advisors

21 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Lindsey Pearlman, president of Travel Leaders Network, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about how the group and its advisors did ...

Get a Crash Course Tour of Flanders (Part I)

20 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Marco Frank, trade and partnerships manager-North America for Visit Flanders, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report, about our all too...

marco frank 2

20 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

What the New President of The Travel Institute Is Planning for the Future

19 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Taylor Ahlsmith Ruecking, the brand-new president of The Travel Institute, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about his plans for t...

Where to Stay in the Heart of France’s Culinary Capital

19 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Laurent Grima, director of operations at Cour de Loges, A Radisson Collection Hotel in Lyon talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report abou...

How Noteworthy Is Celebrating 40 Years of Luxury in the U.K.

19 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Nicola Butler, founder of Noteworthy, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her luxury destination management company offering t...

How Azamara Is Making Waves With a Fleetwide Renovation

16 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Dondra Ritzenthaler, CEO of Azamara Cruises, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her cruise line’s plans to renovate all thr...

Why the World Really Is WorldHotels’ Playground

16 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Greg Habeeb, chief development officer for WorldHotels, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes luxury tra...

Discover the Greek Luxury of Numo Hotels & Resorts

15 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Spyros Kouris, CEO of Numo Hotels & Resorts, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes luxury show about...

How to Tour Exotic Asia in Style with Nomadic Expeditions

15 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jalsa Urubshurow, founder and CEO of Nomadic Expeditions and Three Camels Lodge, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’...

Get an Update on the Tampa Edition

14 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Bridgette Bienvenu, director of sales and marketing for the Tampa Edition, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILT...

Discover the Newest Luxury Resort in Trendy Sun Valley

14 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Stuart Campbell, a luxury hotel and resort developer representing Eagle Creek Hospitality talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at las...

Get an Update of Antigua’s Famed Carlisle Bay

13 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Lisa O’Conner, group director of sales & marketing for Carlisle Bay Antigua, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month...

How The Set Collection of Luxury Hotels Has Evolved

13 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Robin Stangroom, CEO of The Set Collection, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes luxury travel show abo...

Insider Access: Get a Full Tour of JOIA Aruba by Iberostar, the Newest Jewel on Eagle Beach

12 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Join Dominique Meyer, resident manager of JOIA Aruba by Iberostar, for an exclusive sponsored Insider Access tour of this breathtaking property locate...

Why The Place Firenze is “The Place” and More

12 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Claudio Belli, general manager of The Place Firenze, part of The Hospitality Experience, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last...

What’s New in Luxury at the Dorchester Collection

12 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Francois Delahaye, chief operating officer for Dorchester Collection, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Can...

How Banyan Tree Is Growing Beyond 100 Resorts

09 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Jeanette Ho, global head of brand and commercial for Banyan Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes...

Where to Stay in Luxury in Shanghai with Shangri-La

09 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Gregor Wateler, general manager of Jing An Shangri-La Shanghai, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes lu...

Where to Find the Perfect Boutique Resort in Mykonos

08 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Vangelis Daktylides, one of four Greek brothers who owner Myconian Collection, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s...

Discover an Empire of Resorts in the Greek Islands

08 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Kalia Konstantinidou, co-founder and group executive officer of Empiria Group, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about her collect...

Discover Althoff’s Brand-New Luxury Hotel in Frankfurt

07 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Wolfgang Greiner, senior vice president for Althoff Hotels, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes luxury...

How a Taj Hotel Is Growing in Frankfurt

07 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Albert Mayr, general manager of the upcoming Taj Hessischer Hof Frankfurt, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILT...

Discover Everything That’s New in Italy Luxury Experiences

06 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Andrea Grisdale, founder and CEO of IC Bellagio, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes luxury show about...

Find the Stuff That Travel Dreams Are Made of in the U.K.

06 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

David Tobin, founder of DreamEscape U.K., talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at last month’s ILTM Cannes luxury show about his be...

What Sets UNICO Apart From Other Adults Only Resorts in Mexico

05 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Ler Medina, general manager of UNICO Riviera Maya, and Ash Tembe, vice president of sales and marketing for North America at AIC Hotel Group, talk wit...

Why Boutique Hotels Like Casa del Mar Are Thriving in Montenegro

05 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Milena Milic, sales and marketing director for Casa del Mar, talks with Jennifer Lutz of Insider Travel Report about her boutique hotel’s casa-style...

How Tourism Continues to Support Jamaica’s Comeback

02 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Francine Carter, representative of the Jamaica Tourist Board, talks with Jennifer Lutz of Insider Travel Report about Jamaica’s recovery two months ...

How the Jamaica Inn Reopened After the Storm

02 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Kyle Mais, managing director of the Jamaica Inn, talks with Jennifer Lutz of Insider Travel Report about the property’s recovery in Ocho Rios two mo...

How Jamaica’s Ocean Eden Bay Recovered After the Storm

30 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Danesha Clarke, director of sales and marketing for Ocean Eden Bay and Ocean Coral Spring, talks with Jennifer Lutz of Insider Travel Report about Jam...

Virtual Roadshows-Spotlight: Finding the Perfect Place to Stay for Your Family Clients -Part II

29 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How different types of accommodations cater to the family market today with even more features. Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report talks with Jhenelle...

Virtual Roadshows-Spotlight: Finding the Perfect Place to Stay for Your Family Clients -Part I

29 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How different types of accommodations cater to the family market today with even more features. Alan Fine of Insider Travel Report talks with Tina Lee...

How Jamaica’s Hotels Are Helping the Island Come Back

29 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Andrés Cope, general manager of S Hotels Jamaica, talks with Jennifer Lutz of Insider Travel Report about visiting Jamaica today, the island’s reco...

Virtual Roadshows-Spotlight: How Tour Specialists Can Help Create Family Vacations

26 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How can you work with destination management companies (DMCs) and destination specialists to customize the perfect family vacation? This interview exa...

How Global Hotel Alliance Is Growing Around the World

26 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Chris Hartley, CEO of Global Hotel Alliance (GHA), talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at this month’s ILTM Cannes luxury show abo...

How Leading Hotels Remains Focused on Advisors as Strategic Partners

25 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Chris Walker, senior vice president and chief commercial officer for Leading Hotels of the World (LHW), talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel...

Virtual Roadshows Spotlight: Creating the Best Family Expedition Cruise

25 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Can an expedition cruise to a remote destination be the perfect family vacation? We talk to an expedition cruise specialist about how they organize a ...

Virtual Roadshows Panel: What Makes These Destinations Family Friendly

24 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

How top destinations cater to the family travel market with suggested tours, itineraries, hotels, activities and more. This panel examines in depth wh...

What’s New in Luxury at Preferred Hotels and Beyond

23 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Lindsey Ueberroth, president and CEO of Preferred Hotels & Resorts, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at this month’s ILTM C...

How Celestyal Immerses Guests in the Gulf of Arabia

23 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

John Diorio, vice president and managing director for Celestyal, talks with James Shillinglaw about his destination-focused cruise line, which is basi...

Virtual Roadshows Panel: How to Book the Perfect Family Tour

23 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

What can stimulate more togetherness than experiencing a tour program to a top destination and visiting historic sites, great scenery and great destin...

What the Future Holds for Regent in Ultra-Luxury Cruising

22 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Shawn Tubman, senior vice president of sales, Regent Seven Seas Cruises, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report at this month’s ILTM ...