Coming in Andy: Britain's prime minister-in-waiting
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What did Andy Burnham’s by‑election victory mean for UK politics?
The Economist. Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist. I'm Jason Palmer. Today on the show, the Iran deal's effect on a battered economy and a tour of Barack Obama's presidential library.
First up though.
In general, we don't spend a lot of time on the show looking at by elections in Britain. But this one this one we told you might be seismic. Makerfield is a constituency in Northwest England that, until yesterday, sat at the center of British national politics.
From here on, I will give everything I have got to make it so to ensure the name Makerfield. Із Фореве синонімос. with bringing about the change this country needs. Bringing back something we've lost, hope. Hope for the future.
Andy Burnham, the mayor of Greater Manchester, needed to win the election in order to get into Parliament, and from there, to challenge Sir Keir Starmer as leader of the Labour Party and therefore as Prime Minister. Well, he did it. Step one, tick.
Everyone knows. That politics isn't working. Everyone can feel The country isn't where it should be. Tonight Could, just could. be the turning point.
It could just be, after quite a bit more party politicking.
Andy Burnham's won the by-election in Makerfield by a comfortable margin. He took fifty-five percent of the vote, with Reform UK, the right-wing populist party, quite far behind on thirty-five percent.
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political correspondent. Burnham has previously said he's going to challenge Keir Starmer for the Labour leadership, which would also make him Prime Minister. And in the wake of his convincing victory in this by-election, a growing number of Labour MPs are saying that Burnham needs to take over, preferably as quickly as possible, and that he is the person to turn Labour's fortunes around.
So before we get into the meat of that though, I know you were in Makerfield, as so many British journalists were in recent days, what did you see there? What was the vibe like?
Well, the vibe was a community of people who are thoroughly sick of the by-election, sick of being canvassed by campaigners from all the different parties, sick of journalists. It's a funny place, Makerfield. In one way, it doesn't really exist. There is no community called Makerfield. It's a collection of towns, villages, suburbs, fields stretched out over this ten, fifteen mile area on the edge of the town. Of Wigan. It's predominantly white area, mixed in terms of prosperity, some areas extremely prosperous looking, others struggling. The sense is that the population of Makerfield is slightly baffled that they've ended up at the middle of this national and international media storm, and also that they will now be very rich.
So let's talk about why this has been so important, why it all has hinged on Makerfield, but more to the point, why there's so much buzz around Andy Burnett. We spoke about him on the show. Why would you say at this point he's important to Labor?
So for a long time as mayor of Greater Manchester, he's been more or less Labour's most popular figure, both internally and among the public as a whole. He's considered to have done a very good job in his nine years as Mayor of Greater Manchester, put the city really on the map. And so a lot of, particularly Labour MPs, have been saying for a long time that Starmer needs to go, that Labour's struggles are ultimately down to Kirstarmer's own failings and that Burnham is head and shoulders ahead of any other competitor. Interestingly, since this by-election started and since Burnham made it explicitly clear that he does want to return to Westminster and take the top job, his popularity with the public has been falling a bit.
Why do you think that is? Well, I think uh as in many countries, the British public kind of hates politics. And as Burnham has gone from being a regional figure to a national figure. I think for some people puts their hackles up. They're already getting ready for him to be the Prime Minister that they can beat up. Yeah, slightly, slightly. That's certainly the risk for him.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What did Andy Burnham’s by‑election victory mean for UK politics?
0:03–7:03
2
How did the Makerfield by‑election reshape Labour’s leadership race?
7:03–11:44
3
Why are Labour MPs pushing for a quick challenge to Keir Starmer?
11:44–18:59
4
What are the main economic shocks facing Iran after the war?
18:59–24:19