First rate: Kevin Warsh’s Fed debut

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Jason Palmer 0:03
The Economist. Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist. I'm Jason Palmer.
Rosie Bloor 0:13
And I'm Rosie Blore.
Jason Palmer 0:19
Today on the show, Germany's left-wing De Linke wins over the young and a selection of our readers' hacks for managing managers.
Unknown 0:33
First up though.
Jason Palmer 0:43
President Donald Trump put Sharpie to paper yesterday inking the long-awaited and much touted deal with Iran. With that, a reminder that for all the power plays and posturing, he always has his eye on markets and money.
Unknown 0:58
I didn't want to see Economic catastrophe. If you kept this going, that could have happened. But all I know is every time we talked about the possibility of peace, the stock market shut up like a rocket ship.
Jason Palmer 1:11
You know who must have been glad Mr Trump was preoccupied with Iran? Kevin Warsh, freshly minted chair of the Federal Reserve. It was rate setting time yesterday, his first. What to expect from this lifetime hawk who got all dovish when angling for the job? From the next chair who should expect relentless Trumpian pressure to lower rates?
Kevin Warsh 1:31
As you saw a few moments ago, the committee decided to maintain the target range for the Fed funds rate at 3.5 to 3.3 quarters percent.
Jason Palmer 1:42
He held firm. Not the most exciting news. But as so often with fed shares, there were more tea leaves to be read.
Archie Hall 1:51
In some ways the least interesting part of the Fed meeting yesterday was what happened to interest rates.
Jason Palmer 1:57
Archie Hall is our US economics editor.
Archie Hall 2:00
They stayed flat. Everyone expected them to, and Kevin Walsh managed to push that through. What was much more interesting was everything else. His communication style, his plans for federal reform, and everything that it said about how he's going to handle the next four years.
Jason Palmer 2:15
So let's start with what might otherwise have been the big news, the decision on interest rates.
Archie Hall 2:19
Kevin Walsh came in with a claim that he was going to be a crusading interest rate cut, or at least that's what he pushed for during his campaign to get Donald Trump to actually nominate him for the job. And we've argued that was always a dubious proposition that was never really quite in line with, frankly, either his prior reputation or certainly where the American economy was at the moment. Well, the more pressing issue is that actually since he was nominated in late January, the American economy has shifted pretty decisively. So inflation's now up a decent bit because of in part the Iran war, but also in part investment in AI and so on generally is looking firmer than it was at the start of the year.
Archie Hall 2:56
The lay markets, if anything, look a bit stronger as well. So all that pushes in the direction of higher interest rates. And it's become clear that the notion that water was Pushing during the campaign that AI would be a disinflationary force and push inflation down, while maybe plausible in the long term, certainly doesn't seem to be biting in the short term when we have data centers and show on showing up and really pushing demand into the American economy. So it was always going to be hard to cut interest rates. We're also at a stage, frankly, where inflation is above target, but not devastatingly so. May well come down given some of the news from the Iran war side. And so holding on, waiting and
Archie Hall 3:29
seeing was a pretty sensible thing and seems not to have been terribly controversial.
Jason Palmer 3:33
But you said that was in fact not the interesting thing. In particular you mentioned his communication style. What do you mean by that?
Archie Hall 3:39
Central bankers sit on a spectrum. Some of them like to talk and like to explain what they're doing pretty closely to markets and the public. And they think that means they're better understood, they're treated as more legitimate by the public, and also markets are more likely to know what they're going to do and therefore be less volatile around central bank meetings. There's another school of thought, which is much more where Kevin Walsh is, which is basically that central bankers' job is to set interest rates and really not do very much else. And that a lot of the communication that's going on is a distraction.

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