The Jamie Kern Lima Show
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex in Her First Ever Podcast Interview! Exclusive Worldwide Premiere Episode of The Jamie Kern Lima Show
Mon, 28 Apr 2025
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, in her First EVER Podcast Interview! This is the Exclusive Worldwide Premiere Episode of The Jamie Kern Lima Show podcast with our guest today, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. This is such an inspiring conversation, and please make sure to share this episode with everyone you know who needs a boost of joy, inspiration, empowerment and self-belief today! I ask her all the things, like do you use the name Meghan Markel anymore? Will you ever run for office? Are you planning to write another book? And so much more! Are You Ready to believe in YOU?🙌 jamiekernlima.com 👈 Sign up for my FREE Inspirational Newsletter and get ready for your self-worth to soar!🩷 Also, please make sure to take 2 seconds and click the “Follow” button right here on this page to follow me and the podcast, I’m so grateful and thank you SO much! For this special episode, in the studio today, I have my favorite rocking chairs for the first time ever. These are the ones I sit in all the time just outside of my kitchen with friends, where we catch up, share our day, our hardships, our joys, our pain, and have our most intimate conversations. I’ve had so many heart-felt moments with Meghan in these chairs, and today YOU are invited to join us! So, come as you are, cozy up, lean in and get ready… this is the Worldwide Premiere of Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, in her first ever podcast interview…and she’s doing it with you and me today right here, on the Jamie Kern Lima Show! Meghan, Duchess of Sussex is an American member of the British royal family, an entrepreneur, author, actor, Founder of the lifestyle brand As Ever, that just sold out of stock completely in the first hour of its recent launch into the world, congratulations! Her new Netflix show “With Love, Meghan” just debuted Season 1 as a top 10 show on Netflix…. She’s also a mom to her two beautiful kids, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet and wife to husband Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. She’s a mama of rescue dogs, and she’s also an incredible champion of women, and an amazing friend! She just recently debuted her brand new podcast called “Confessions of a Female Founder!” where Meghan builds out a business of her own, she’s getting advice and insights from amazing women who have scaled small ideas into successful companies. And guess what, I’m so grateful to be one of the guests on her show as well! Meghan and I had the MOST incredible conversation on insights and stories I’ve never shared before…from when I was a waitress at Denny’s with big dreams but a lot of self-doubt, to starting IT Cosmetics in my living room, getting hundreds of Nos for years, to eventually getting 1 yes that changed everything. I share the stories behind the stories, some for the first time ever on Meghan’s new podcast, our episode comes out tomorrow so make sure to listen and share it with everyone you know, who it could help inspire…whether its to keep going in their business or in their dreams! You can listen to our episode of Confessions of a Female Founder here! It’s such an honor to share this podcast together with you. And please note: I am not a licensed therapist, and this podcast is NOT intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, professional coach, psychotherapist, or other qualified professional. Click Here to Subscribe to the YouTube Channel Follow me here: Instagram TikTok Facebook Website — Sign up for my inspirational newsletter for YOU at: jamiekernlima.com — Looking for my books on Amazon? Here they are! WORTHY Believe IT
Chapter 1: What is the significance of makeup in this conversation?
You have to prove that you're a good wife or a good friend. And I was like, I am just so done with the prove it game. And if you can't see it, I can't, I don't need to prove to you why that's your loss. Like, because I know that I'm a great friend and I know the kind of mom I am and I know the kind of human being I am.
I know how I show up and I love being able to be that person with the people that I love. So, you know, worthiness, maybe part of worthiness comes when you stop having to feel like you're in the proofing game.
Chapter 2: How can we stop the 'prove it' game in our lives?
Hallelujah. I am getting emotional right now. Getting out of the prove-it game, like, feels like joy, tastes like freedom. Megan, Duchess of Sussex, in her first ever podcast interview.
It's happening.
You made me cry. Good thing I have no makeup on. You look so pretty.
I have not like done a show with no makeup since my thousand QVC shows. Do you think
I have? What are you talking about? You look exactly the same though.
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Chapter 3: What are Meghan's thoughts on motherhood and marriage?
These are some of the hot questions that everyone wants to know. Talk about your name. Do you use Markle anymore? What's your morning routine look like? Would you ever write another book? People are often curious if I'm going to write a memoir. Would you ever run for office? Can you give us one hint on something exciting coming up for ASAP? I have had your jam in my refrigerator all year.
No one knows. No one's seen it. I have not posted it. In this incredible conversation, Megan shares stories and insights for the first time ever.
It's not about the grandeur of a gesture. It's about I see you. I'm nurturing you and I see you so deeply and I love being able to see your growth. That man loves me so much and... You know, look what we built. We built a beautiful life, and we have two healthy, beautiful children. That's my husband.
He's just out there, just constant, like he's just going to do whatever he can to make sure that our family is safe and protected and we're uplifted and still make time for date nights. Are you in love now more than ever? So I feel like it's more of a honeymoon period for us now. He's also a fox, if you haven't noticed. My husband's very, very handsome. that his heart is even more beautiful.
I have a letter from your husband and your kids. No one's ever seen this before. Of all things, it's making me emotional. I have full body chills right now.
For them to be able to look back and go, oh my gosh, she has loved us so much.
She's an American member of the British Whale family, an entrepreneur, author, founder of the lifestyle brand, As Ever, that just sold out of stock completely in the first hour of its recent launch into the world. Congratulations. Her new Netflix show, With Love, Megan, just debuted season one as a top 10 show on Netflix.
She's also a mom to her two beautiful kids, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet, and wife to husband, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. She's a mama of rescue dogs, and she's also an incredible champion of women and an amazing friend.
She just recently debuted her brand new podcast called Confessions of a Female Founder, where while Megan builds out a business of her own, she's getting advice and insights from amazing women who have scaled small ideas into successful companies. And guess what? I am so grateful to be one of her guests on her show as well.
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Chapter 4: What is the 'Megan effect' in female entrepreneurship?
And this morning I was talking to your husband and I said, this is going to be my goal is this is her favorite interview ever. And he goes, well, my goal is you guys just have fun. You just have fun. Oh, sweet. And I'm like, you're right. You're right. Do you feel like you're able to have fun being so busy right now?
I think so. And also. It depends on how you define fun, right? So when we were in our 20s, fun is something very different than now. Now fun is we go have a really nice dinner and drink some yummy wine or fun is just, can we just carve out a couple hours? Well, last week, though I had lots of meetings, I made it a point to still go and see a Broadway show. I hadn't seen a show.
I hadn't seen a Broadway show before. in so long. We saw Hamilton when Lin-Manuel, they came to London for a premiere, but that still, I probably haven't seen a Broadway show for over a decade. And it was so energizing. to watch. And for me, that was a really great experience of fun, but also affirmation that why is this lighting me up so much to watch creativity in action?
It's like, oh, because that's what I get to do again. That's what I'm doing with all the projects I'm working on. I had missed being creative and I had missed being able to just have my hands in the granular of time-coded edits and bringing a vision to life. And when you watch artists do that and do that with such passion, I think it was just the most inspiring. But that for me was fun.
So yeah, carving that out and not saying, no, I can't go to New York. Yes, you can go to New York. You can make time to do that and go with friends and you can go have a fun dinner and still all the rest of it will be there and you can still hit your deadlines and actually you might hit them even better because you feel full and balanced.
Yeah.
I saw so many photos different people had posted from you at the Broadway show. I saw little girls crying. Oh. Little girls so excited to meet you. So sweet. You and I are great friends. And also for any interview I ever do, I prep like crazy. And one of my favorite parts was just reading so many letters and posts and messages of little girls who are like, oh, wow.
Like whether it's they're talking about your humble beginnings or talking about their dreams and like through you and through everything you've done, they believe it's possible. I love that. Whether it's to be, you know, have a very different life than the one they were raised in or to launch a business. How do you feel about that? I take it really seriously.
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: How does Meghan integrate joy into her busy life?
And I went up to her and I said, hi, I love you in the soft and dry deodorant commercial. That's all that could come out of my mouth. And she was so gracious. This was such a pivotal moment for me because I never knew I was gonna become an actor or someone that people would go up to. But this moment was so influential for me because she turned around and she goes, hi, sweetheart, what's your name?
First thing I learned, I was like, I'm Megan. And that moment I was like, she cares to know what my name is. And then she's like, hi, I'm Yasmeen. I know who she is, but she introduced herself. All those years later, no one teaches you how to be an actor once the show becomes successful. No one teaches you what to do when people recognize you.
That moment with Yasmine Bleeth taught me how important it was for someone to make me feel seen and not brushed off. And she might have been asked a hundred times that day for a picture or anything else. And it always stayed with me. I go, hi, what's your name? Good to meet you. I'm Megan. You always do that. I see you do that all the time. Yes. Because I know how much it means.
So I guess that's a really small example of at this scale, I check in with my young girl self because I want to know how I would want to feel in that moment. I want to know who I would want to look up to in that moment and how I could mimic that behavior, echo that. And yeah, it's a big privilege. It's a big privilege. It comes with a lot of responsibility.
And I just, I want everyone to feel like they matter.
Yeah. Do you think our lives are divinely ordered or like our steps are divinely ordered when you think about that moment and sort of like seeing that example and now it's part of your life all the time?
Someone said to me last year when I sat down, they said, well, you know, this is your sole contract. You signed up for this. You signed up for this before you were here. I was like, well, I didn't read the fine print. Okay. To be clear, like, can I redline this and amend the small print? Because I signed up for this. You're like, no, you signed up for this. You signed up for this.
This is your hand and this is your lap around the sun or whatever you want to look at it as because you can do this. And yeah. I guess on days that are hard, that's really grounding and affirming to remember. And then some days I'm just like, oh my gosh, what is this life? I would have never predicted it, but I'm grateful for it. Even on the hardest days. Yeah. Even on the hardest days.
You know, in my life, I have so many friends of all different faiths. I have friends that love everything. One of my friends who's the strongest Catholic I know also sees every psychic, every meeting. She's like, God made them too. We're going to cover our bases and all the things. That's funny because most people, one or the other. Right. Yeah. Right. And I'm so open.
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Chapter 6: What does it mean to truly feel seen?
How often do you see stories, whether they're in magazines or online? Yeah.
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Chapter 7: How has friendship evolved for Meghan and Jamie?
And it says, I've already settled it for myself. So flattery and criticism go down the same drain. And I'm quite free. Yeah. And it's a very hard thing to put into action to actually integrate. Yeah. But it's become so ingrained in my mind because it was there before it actually applied to me on a level like this. I've really tried to distance myself from all of it. And that has challenges too.
It does. I'm oblivious to a lot of things, but that allows me to live my life really authentically, make choices authentically. but it also allows me to be really detached from the outcome. I go, I can just show up. I can put good work out there. I feel confident with what we've created and then let it go.
So to answer your question, maybe 1% of what's in the world I would see and only if it's brought to me and said like, you should really read this. You will learn something from it or this is really good insight or I think you'll appreciate how this writer or journalist really wants to get the story right. Or the text of like, hey, just sending love and checking in.
And you're like, your hackles go up. About what? What now? What is it now? What are they reading now? Why are they sending love and checking in? Yeah. You can make yourself a little bit nuts with it as opposed to maybe they are just sending love and checking in, which is why your voice notes are helpful because I can always hear your tone. Yeah. I'm always like, are you enjoying this?
Okay.
Are you celebrating? You remember I didn't celebrate that much. Are you celebrating? Are you celebrating? You have to celebrate. You have to enjoy this. Huge. This is huge. This is huge. It's big. It's big. It's big. It's big. You just launched as ever. Sold out. Everything sold out in under an hour. Everything. Yeah. 45 minutes.
Well, and so many entrepreneurs, they don't realize how hard it is until they do it and The world now can see these wins, which is really exciting, but you've been working so hard. You've been working so hard for so long, and all of a sudden, it's all coming. Everything is blossoming right now.
Yes. With actors, that happens a lot too, where they say, this overnight success story. And they're saying, I have been on this grind and auditioning for 10 years and hearing no after no after no after no after no. So yes, 10 years and a night. Yeah. But to the world, it's just what has she been doing? Does she work?
as opposed to, oh my gosh, I work so hard and I appreciate what hard work looks like. I like working hard and I'm still working hard, right? The moment that everything sells out, it doesn't mean that we're done.
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Chapter 8: What lessons can we learn from building a business?
Yeah. You're a hard worker. There are times we get together and I'm like, I just want to have DoorDash come in. And you're like, let's make some. And I'm like, I know, I just want a glass of wine and to hang out. No, but it's like it's in you.
I was going to ask you that actually because, you know, just to share some kind of fun moments because I really want to take people behind the scenes into this. The first time – so I know you look at all the data. It is impossible to have a true friendship or a true relationship with anybody, a true connection if you don't show it fully authentically. Yes. And I remember –
One of the times you're at my house and I've seen all the beautiful stuff you make. And it's just like, it's in you. You just like make these things and, and, and you and I were raised, you and I were raised with TV dinners on a TV tray. Yeah. Right. Like, like, and somehow you just, it's like in you. And I remember you came over.
I'm like, I'm going to make, I'm going to make Megan a charcuterie tray. Which I just learned that word a few years ago, charcuterie. Anyways, like I'm making a charcuterie. So I put it all together and I looked at it and I remember you came over and I was like – effort. It was an A for effort. And my daughter, who is six, can make one way better than I make. She loves to cook.
But I just remember just being like, if we're going to have a real friendship, this is who I am. And I remember you just loved it. And then I asked you, I'm like, okay, just so I know, what would you do to make it a little bit more aesthetically pleasing? Aesthetically pleasing.
And then like I felt like somehow you had this magic wand and in like 10 seconds you go in my pantry, you go in the fridge and you like do these things and I look down at it and I'm like, what in the world? It looks like – all of a sudden like it looks like a cover of a magazine. Like it's just in you. And so two questions. One is – You know, where did that come from?
But also, probably a year ago now, I remember someone else's kid falling on the playground. Tons of people there. You're the first one to run over there. You don't even think about it. It's like you're over there. You're taking care of that child, like right away. I've seen you do this in multiple places. You know, you speak of strawberries.
When I was like super stressed out one time, I had in-laws and all these people visiting. You had a very full house. Very full house. And all of a sudden I get word that, you know, all of a sudden you dropped off this gift basket with ice creams, homemade strawberry sauce to put on top of the ice cream just to see if that helps lighten my load.
It was like as if you're in my shoes feeling what I was feeling without me even needing to tell you anything. And you're doing something that adds value to my life. And when I see the joy, My daughter loves cooking and you all of a sudden – She makes very good charcuterie boards. Oh, my gosh. Yes, she does. Yes, she does.
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