Liz Ellis is arguably Australia's most well-known, and most successful netballer. She played for the national Australian team for 15 years, and was captain for four years, and is now the head of Netball Australial. This year she added 'Queen of the Jungle' to her list of accolades, after winning her season of I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here! But as Liz herself shares, the hard work and determination that it takes to become a professional athlete can have surprising effects on your personal life. Liz and Jess swap stories about IVF, coping with failure, embracing chaos, and navigating mid-life and menopause. CONTENT WARNING: This conversation touches on miscarriage, and fertility issues. If this content raises any issues for you, help is available by contacting Lifeline on 13 11 14 or SANDS on 1300 308 307. Know someone who'd enjoy this episode? Why not share it with them by tapping the 3 dots above ⬆︎ and passing it on LINKS: Learn more about Liz's podcast No Dribble Buy Liz's book If At First You Don't Conceive Fill out our survey for the chance to win a $100 voucher here If you loved this chat with Darren we think you'll love Jess's conversation with Jelena Dokic here If you love what we do, why not follow the show, and rate and review on Apple or Spotify CREDITS:Host: Jessica RoweGuests: Liz EllisExecutive Producer: Nic McClureAudio Producer: Chris Marsh Digital Content Producer: Zoe Panaretos The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show acknowledges the Gadigal people, Traditional Custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders peoples here today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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