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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 912 | "Heaven Sent"

18 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, are for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own.

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Enjoy the show. All right. I'm good. Y'all good? We good. Great. All right. We are good. Hit the button. Let's go. The button is on. Oh, shit. Come on, man. We here already. What's going on? What's popping? Chill. How you feeling? Real good. Well, that's not true. That's not true. I can't even lie. So you're not real good? I celebrated my dad's 70th birthday yesterday. Yes, sir, Ski!

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Happy birthday, Pop70. Good to know how old your parents are. Thought he was a couple years older. I don't know. Once the cane comes out, nigga, I'll put you at 75 minimum. Went to an Italian restaurant. Okay. I can't eat Italian anymore. It's over. Was it bougie Italian or kind of like regular Italian? No, it was real good Italian food right there in Harlem, but I can't do it anymore. I can't.

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That rigatoni had me hugging the smart toilet all night long. All night long. Throwing up mad shit. Oh, it was bad. It was bad. I'm just now gathering myself, getting myself together, so happy to be here with you brothers, but chunky rigatoni with the pork Italian sausages. That's what it is. I knew he was going to say something. Told you, leave that oink alone.

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And I ordered some branzino, had the crab cake and calamari for the appetizer. Oh, you off the set.

Chapter 2: How does the crew reflect on personal experiences over the weekend?

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Yeah. Yo, you mix all that oink, seafood, all that fish. Yeah, no wonder you was like, yeah, what you talking about? All the different types of fishes you've mixed in your life. Let me just spray it. Haven't you mixed a lot of fish? I did. Yeah, you know what that life comes with. But I don't eat them with the oink and all that together. Now, you eat them regular, right?

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Yeah, you'll pass that Febreze, baby. You're going to be on the toilet, nigga. And on God, the smart toilet is the absolute worst toilet. I think I said that up here. There's some things that don't need to be smart. That is the worst toilet to throw up in. Toilets don't need to be smart. Shit keep coming down. Yeah. You anti-smart toilet parts? I don't own a smart toilet.

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I don't have smart or anything. Except for like phones. Smart toilets are the shit, except for when you need to url or you got the bubble guts. You got a smart toilet still? I use one upstairs. I don't use one downstairs. The toilet I use isn't because I'm basic, but I keep one upstairs. It's good for like cleansing and yeah. Anyway, I am feeling good now. Happy to be here with you guys.

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Good to see y'all. Good to be seen. How y'all doing? Good, man. Feel good. Good, man. How was your weekends? Good. A little lit. Sleepy. Friday. Friday was a little lit for me. I was outside. Newark, actually. Oh, okay. Newark. You ain't call me for a permission slip. You right. I felt safe. They knew, though. I felt safe. They knew. They know you as my man. They know you as my man.

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They did, actually. It's cool. I know Ish. It was a lot of that. It was a lot of that. Ish was just here the other day. It was. He copped two. Shut your ass. He copped two. Yo, you stupid dog. He copped, too. But other than that, uneventful weekend. Yeah, I slept. I didn't wake up on Saturday until like 4 or 5 o'clock in the morning. I didn't get out of bed. I mean, 4 or 5 o'clock in the daytime.

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I was just tired. Afternoon? You mean afternoon? Yeah, in the daytime. I was just running around. My body was like, yo, chill out. That was Saturday? What happened Friday? Friday at work. from here from this work I worked here so that shit was so stressful you slept through the whole afternoon we got off at 5 Ooh. We got off at five. Look how you can get. Look how fast.

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Look how fast you can jam me, man. We got off at around three. We got off at around three. That's scary. That bullshit will work to have you answering a question. Why people believe me? I want to request it. Well, at least up here. Nobody should believe nothing I say up here. Anyway, glad you're well-rested. Glad you're well-rested. What's up with you? Nothing, chilling. Went out Saturday.

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That's it. Quiet weekend. Y'all's quiet weekend does involve going out once. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Sometimes. But not out, out. Sometimes. What happens at our age, I'll speak for me, at my age, one night, the rest of the weekend is about to be quiet. I learned that this weekend. You don't got two nights in a row no more? No. And I ain't got two spots in a row no more either.

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That niggas be partying too long. And you drink. That's what does it. It's a drain on you. You just go out. I went out and left early. Normally, we'd be in the spot until two something. What time is it? 1.05? I'm out. I did two spots this week. My wife is out of town. She's in Puerto Rico, actually. Turn them up. So it's been great, man. I miss her. That's why you worked out.

Chapter 3: What insights do they share about the Oscars and notable winners?

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It's good, though. Sometimes you need a little break, you know? I'm trying to read what your t-shirt says. Oh. make Potter of the Month great again. Yo, you in this campaign and shit. Am I campaigning for you? Oh, my God. I didn't even read the shirt. It just was on the... Is it not great now? I mean, tell that to my neck. It feels pretty awesome. And pause. I was about to say, that was crazy.

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That was absolutely nuts. What's up, bro? Yeah. Yeah, I was with Bougie Bonsai. Boom, my body in the... Yeah. Careful. Oh, yeah, you can't sing that song. Oh, shit, I fucked up. They got rid of a classic. And you said the word. Yeah, you said the word. Well, we're going to edit that out.

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No, it was a dope weekend, man, hanging out with Buju, man, and running around the city, just learning some things and learning about the Rastafarian movement. Just a dope experience, man. Culture. I had a lot of fun this weekend. Yeah. I had a lot of fun this weekend. Chilling, man. How do you recover? Because you seem to be able to get out, work, do things, and still come in looking refreshed.

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I sleep in the car. You should know about that, right, boy? You know about that? I don't sleep in the car. Bitch, we're just talking about that, though. I know we ain't going to start with that, but you're saying the guy got caught with his wife because he used to be sleeping in the car before he come in the house? Like I said, that's how you decompress. We need our decompressing moments. We do.

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We do. And I didn't realize how important that was. So y'all heard that and didn't think that he's ****? No. Wait, for going outside and sitting in the car for a little bit? Like getting to the house and sitting in the car. He said the guy is sleeping in his car. No, he said outside the hour. No, no, no, no. He pulled up. He sits in the car. Oh, I thought he said the guy is sleeping in his car.

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You're taking this too far now, buddy. Yeah, not hell, no. I used to sleep in the car a lot. We know. Why? This nigga walking's crazy. You see me sleep everywhere, right? Post-Nut Clarity, nigga. Oh, shit. This got a day we haven't been. She got the wipes in the car, too. Let it drop. Put the heat on. Let it drop. Yeah. I don't want to go inside the house with a spam.

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He got the gun compartment for the wife. He got the shit from the wire in his car. 108.7. This was years ago, like when I was younger. Sure. Like 21? Actually, yeah. When I was living in Atlanta, that's when it started. I did it till I was in my 30s. I couldn't get up.

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Like, if I could get home, as soon as I pulled up, I just couldn't get out of the car, and I would sometimes sleep till 3 or 4 in the morning. Oh, shit. Did you drink? No, not necessarily. Sometimes, but it wasn't, like, drunk. It was just tired. Like, I couldn't fight that shit. But now, I sit out front sometimes just because I need a minute. Yeah. Just need... It's going to happen, Joe.

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Oh, yeah. Stop making a face. You're making a face. Please don't insert me in y'alls. I don't relate to this. He rich, though. I haven't experienced it yet, so I'm muting up. We're preparing you. Please don't throw an alley-oop. We'll just let you know what's coming, Joe. Not just that. You didn't mute up. We'll just let you know. Hold on. He's going to have two entrances.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of LaRussell's recent actions?

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Laura, yeah. And everything they're doing individually, too, is great. And Mero and Nori. Yeah, word. It seemed a lot of much ado about nothing, if you will. Boom. All right. I will say I enjoy listening to the morning show, Hot 97. Yeah, I listen to it daily. I enjoy it. Did you do that before? I did it before, too. Because, again, I got the kids in the car, so I just cut the radio on.

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It sounds differently with... Mero with him up here. Trying to get you out of it. Trying to get you a new job, right? The biggest plane up here. Let's go, Freeze. I know that trick.

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Chapter 5: How does the group respond to LaRussell's comments?

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Freeze. I know that one. Freeze, let me see where I fit on here. Mero, what up? You know how you DM niggas and inboxing niggas? Let's go, Freeze. Fuck this nigga, Freeze. What we doing, Freeze? Why you always put me in the joke? Freeze, what we doing, boy? I don't play none of the... Oh, now you don't play? All right, my fault. That's y'all business. Y'all do that. See how I get... It's easy.

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It's easy to loop a man. I get in trouble for being quiet. It's easy to loop a man. And that's your man, so you're right. I'm going to fuck you two. You know what time it is? You know what? It's time to fuck me. I ain't even say nothing. Yeah, you speak with your face, light-eyed motherfucker.

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Chapter 6: What are the key takeaways from the discussion on artistic expression?

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Yo, dude, come on. This nigga's crazy. I get looped in with him? Yes. All right, the same way you ain't want to be looped in with him? But I'm really not down with him. Bro. You are down with him. Bro, why y'all think, why do you think that? Yo, what's wrong with you? You do that every time, bro. Why do you think that? Why do I think y'all are down with each other?

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Like, you start, you, this is your creation. You know that, right? That whole Nort couch narrative, that's you. You did create that, Joe. You create it, and then you attach us in every, we don't think the same. We two different people. Are y'all not down with each other? I'm down with all of you niggas. We are friends. Oh, oh. I'm down with all. Am I down with you? But in the specific, no.

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So keep that in mind. Next time somebody mention marriage, proposal, rings, anything like that, because you love to throw me in with you. But in the specific. Can you address what I'm saying? You didn't answer my question yet. You didn't get your question out. I've been asked the same question. You said, are you down? And I said, I'm down with all of you. He did answer that.

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Which means you're down with him. I'm down with him and you and you and you and you. Okay, I'm not down with him. Just to be clear. Or you, nigga. You are down with him. Fuck you, too. With who? Flip. I don't want to be. Oh, my God. Yo, what time is it? Yo, what time is it? You know what time it is? Yo, now it's time for my favorite part of the show, y'all. How can I undown myself?

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Then I'm riding with what my man says. It's the Joe and Ish picks, then. I don't believe you always try to win, but I'm riding with my man. Ride with your man to get your kill. But I'm going to do it. The Joe and Ish Picks of the Week. We are going with Cameron Boozer for more than a point. Duh. SGA for more than 34.5 points, rebounds, and assists.

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Chapter 7: What are the key contributions of Kiki Shepard to black culture?

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He just said that. Same shit. It's not. All right, fam, you know. He won that game. I just spoke to her. I did not just speak to her. How you know everybody? All right. I'm just going to, let me first start by reading something from Roland Martin. I'm sad to see Kiki Shepard pass away. She was 74. I just saw her February 12th at the NBA All-Star Game Gospel Celebration.

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She asked me to play her in her annual golf tournament. I said yes, and we traded numbers. Rest in peace. So that was where I was getting it from. I just didn't want to shout out another platform. Oh, so you're leaning on Roland Martin connects. Yeah, yeah, that's what reporting is. You have sources. Thank God for Roland Martin. Thank God for Roland Martin.

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But, yeah, we lost a legend, Kiki Shepard, yesterday. She died of a massive heart attack. Seemed to be sudden by all indications. Any black person in America knows who Kiki Shepherd is because they know Showtime at the Apollo, which is a staple of black culture. It's a staple of our tradition of music and performance. And while the show has had lots of hosts, there's really only been one co-host.

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And that co-host is Kiki Shepherd. And I'm using the word co-host because a lot of times we think of her just as the person on stage, just the person telling people, you know, to rub, you know, for good luck. But she was more than that. She would help produce the show. She helped break acts and talent.

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There are so many acts of all races, but especially black and brown artists who broke because of the Apollo. And she was a big part of that. She was incredibly gifted and talented herself. She's a Howard University grad, a business administration degree. She helped start the D.C. Repertory Dance Theater. She acted.

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She's in stage plays like Mama, I Wanna Sing, which most of us know from our generation. She was even in The Wiz. She had a role. I mean, she was an incredible dancer, actor, singer. She just did everything, as a lot of people from that generation did, even when they didn't get credit for it. But she was also like...

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Our imaginary idol, our imaginary girlfriend, imaginary wife, imaginary mom, and at some point imaginary auntie. You know, history will remember Vanna White, but she was our Vanna White, except she was bigger and more important to us at a time where there weren't more of us. You know, she was on TV when nobody was on TV. She was a model when there were no other models.

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And I just, you know, I'm glad that... Her name will be remembered, but it's going to be remembered not just for what she did on that stage, but what she did across every aspect of her life. She was a philanthropist. She was a giver. In fact, I don't know if you know, she was having a golf tournament just next month scheduled, which was going to raise money for charity.

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Hopefully they still have it. Yeah, hopefully they still have it. So, you know, rest in peace to our now ancestor, Kiki Shepard. It was a life well lived, and we honor and love her. We love you, Kiki. Rest in peace. Thank you. Thank you. I ain't gonna front. Mark made me do know a couple people that know where he killed that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chapter 8: How does personal happiness impact our responsibilities?

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Did you watch it? I've seen it. Okay. You don't want to keep hating. I mean... I thought this one was pretty good. This one was pretty good. Now that they got back to some of the characters that we give a fuck about and some of the storylines that we were waiting on continuance from. I have a quick question. Do y'all still just call him Randall? Yeah, or Sterling. What is his name in this shit?

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Xavier. Oh, I don't call him that. I don't call him Xavier at all. It's Randall or Sterling. I'm going to tell you. I have nothing to say because you guys killed me for giving you paradise reviews, especially when I said that the wife... Shouldn't have slid with homeboy and the kid looking for safety when the world was coming to an end. For me, it was satire. Kinda.

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But you guys made valid points. I will keep my paradise reviews to myself until the end of the show. I thought this was excellent. No need to make mention of how dude tried to kill homeboy. Who couldn't have? Hey. Almost got away with it, too. Who couldn't? Hey. Oh, my God. You saw that?

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I mean, I'm not going to say that I saw that, but when you and your wife are separated, the guy that she normally, the guy that slides in right after you, he normally doesn't have your best interest at heart. I think the circumstances. The first thing he said when you seen the dude was, I love your wife. Yeah. She's my best friend. Yeah. They've taken her from me. They ain't taken her from him.

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And they didn't take her. Yeah, but Ed is like, and now you show up as the husband, the husband that could fight, the husband that's trained, a trained agent. Who couldn't have seen that this dude would try to kill him? That's all I got to say about it. You put a little too much faith in bro. Yeah, come on. Because he's fat. Nah, I think he honestly been shitting on homeboy the whole time.

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Treating that nigga like a da-dun-da-dun. Yo, you going to just sit here and do nothing. Shut up. He gave him the trigger for the bomb. He wouldn't let him touch a baby, my nigga. Like, eh. Move, nigga. Sit over there. Yeah, yeah. Sit your dumb ass down. Like, that's how he been treating homeboy. What episode you up to now? It's six. It's two left. I'll tell you this.

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And they've been already renewed for the third season, which many think will be their final. Well, it is their final. They said it. But I was going to say, you could kind of tell. It ain't being received the way they might have thought. The fact that they even had Sterling K. Brown up there with the signs announcing season three. We in the middle of season two.

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He's holding the signs in front of the camera like Homeboy was in front of the bunker. See, I think they rolled it out so slow and there's so much ground to cover that it really needs 10 episodes. Yeah, I would agree. You know what I'm saying? I think in these ten episodes instead of eight, then they could have really got their shit off on the last two. I think...

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Yeah, it's just moving super slow. The way they keep tying it back into Paradise to here, it's just a lot of ground to cover, and they need more episodes for me. It's fine. I'm already on down to fuck St. Louis. Thank you. Let's get to the goal. Let's get to the great team. Let's get to the great team. Are you caught up? Y'all want to move slow with fucking season two of Paradise? I'm on DTF St.

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