Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Cheers, sir. Cheers. Cheers. What is that?
Black rifle?
Black rifle, yeah. We're up, Chris. What's up, baby? How are you? Good to see you, man. So how long have you been in Texas now? Two years. Wow. Do you feel like this is where you live or do you like... This feels like home.
Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I went back home for Christmas in the UK and it's so strange to go back to a place that you know so well, you're super familiar with. but you're kind of different, and everything's changed, but everything's the same, and you fall back into old patterns. You remember that tree that you used to walk past on your morning walk? It's very disquieting, but it's fun.
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Chapter 2: How does living in Texas feel compared to the UK?
It's nice.
The oddest thing for me is the contrast and the amount of freedom you have for things that you would never think were important. Like these little nicotine things. In California, you can't buy this because it's flavored. In California, you can put a tent in front of people's houses and fucking cook meth and no one says anything. No one does anything.
You could commit violent crime and you get arrested and released with no bail. They'll never find you again. The laws are so ridiculous. But... You are not allowed to have flavored nicotine. Flavored nicotine is dangerous, Chris.
They're trying to ban flavored vapes in the UK very aggressively, super aggressively. It's like that's the big deal. That being said, I think it's like some non-insignificant percentage of school children are using vapes. It's very addictive. There's a no vapes sign in schools. Like that wasn't something that was already self-evident.
Well, cigarettes were a big deal when I was in high school. You know, a lot of kids smoked cigarettes. It was a cool kid's thing to do. What's the smoking age in America? I think it's 18. Yep. 18? Legally, yeah. Legally? Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What are the differences in attitudes towards nicotine and crime in California and Texas?
It's 18. But when I was a kid, people got cigarettes. Someone got you cigarettes. I don't know. When I was young, I remember before I turned 18, they changed the legal drinking age. Because the legal drinking age, I believe, used to be 18. And then they bumped it up to 21. I was like, damn it.
Dude, have you ever seen the video of when DUIs came in in the 1980s? Yes. And they're interviewing people in cars.
Yeah.
That is one of my favorite videos of all time. Please, Jamie, let me watch that video again.
Yeah. The lady's like, we're going to bring in communism.
Don't know what the world's coming to. And she's got a kid.
Yeah.
She's got a baby in the passenger seat.
No seatbelt. And even if you did have a seatbelt, there's no airbags. Those things are death traps.
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Chapter 4: How does the discussion shift to the impact of childhood on adult behavior?
And it's a time capsule from less than 100 years ago. What was that super famous?
Is this Shirley Temple?
Yes. Yes, it's Shirley Temple. That's what it is. Bro.
Thanks, Mama. You died tooting, I did. That means you love her. That's what I've been trying to tell her.
Oh, my God. Dude. You're darn tootin'. Darn tootin', I am. The guy's got someone's daughter over his knee, and he's spanking her into submission. Spanking her. That'll teach her. Holding her and spanking her. That means you love her, Shirley Temple says. Shirley Temple is like the propagandist. She was like a young propagandist.
I can't tell if that's actually her. I'm trying to type it in. It's not.
It's not her?
It might be someone else.
How many of them were there? How many of them young, famous girl actors were there? How many of them came out great? Zero?
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Chapter 5: What are the dangers of not taking responsibility for failures?
It is dangerous. It's just not good to be a human being with that. But if you want to be the best at something, it's really the best strategy. If you really want to compete against other top dogs, you're going to have to do more or be better, be smarter, figure something out that they're not figuring out.
Well, it's really a game of who's prepared to sacrifice most.
It's also who's prepared to learn the most, right? Who's good at recognizing what actually happened versus what you've been comforting yourself with. What do you mean? If there's a bad result, whether it's a bad result of business or a bad result of your personal life, there's always this desire that people have to find a reason why it wasn't their fault because it's uncomfortable.
But if you can recognize, oh, this product tanked because of me. This is a stupid idea and I need to course correct and I need to realize what I did wrong. Instead of blaming the suppliers or blaming the manufacturers or blaming the other people on the design team or blaming this, but whatever the fuck you're making or whether it's an album you just put out that just everybody hates it.
What did I do wrong? Don't bullshit.
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Chapter 6: How do high performers recognize their mistakes?
What do I need to do different? And for a lot of people, that is an uncomfortable moment that they don't want to experience. So if you're a high performer the more you could recognize what you've actually done wrong and course-correct and not just be if you're like a CEO of a company You've got so many people kissing your ass.
It's like your egos got to be inflated It's gonna be so hard to see the forest for the trees. Just like being a movie star on a set. You know, everybody loves you Here's your bagel. Yep. Mr. Williamson. Can I get you anything? You get a delusional perspective. So it's like amongst those people, how many of them can keep their humanity? How many of them can actually just be a human?
And then your metrics, like how many of them are happy? How many of these? If you can be a guy who's like a super high performer and also be happy, I don't know how happy Elon is, but I know he laughs a lot.
Chapter 7: What challenges do high-performing athletes face in personal relationships?
Like I've been around that dude a lot and he's always laughing about shit. He's always laughing about shit. He's clearly under an extreme amount of pressure. He's clearly a high performer, but he also seems to be enjoying a lot of it.
Did you see his interview recently with Lex? I think it was maybe four months ago. No, I didn't. So on that, there's a really interesting point where Lex is asking him basically what it's like to be Elon. And Elon says, most people think they would want to be me, but they do not want to be me. My mind is a storm. They don't know. They don't understand.
Yeah.
He said that to me too.
It's fucking apocalyptic and terrifying. We spoke about this last time, Tiger Woods, the price that people pay to be the person that you admire. Tiger Woods goes through this really difficult period with his father and all the rest of it. And this is the best remedy for envy. that I can think of.
Because people look at Elon as this dude, he's sending rockets to Mars and he's making the coolest cars on the planet and he's on stage in Japan or China or whatever doing weird robot dances and shit and he's super rich. You don't know the price that he's had to pay for that. You don't know the internal texture of someone's mind.
Your heroes aren't gods, they're just regular people who probably got good at one thing by sacrificing literally everything else.
Yeah. especially as a high performing athlete, like what, what are your options? Like if you're, if you want to be a fighter in the UFC, you can't also be coding.
Yeah.
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Chapter 8: How do societal pressures affect modern dating and relationships?
You train a lot during the day, but if you make a living fighting, you will be able to have a relationship. And with some of them, that relationship offers them a significant amount of emotional reinforcement.
Parasympathetic activation.
Yeah, it gives them comfort. It makes them feel normal. Some guys separate from their families for camp because they just want to be animals. They just want to sleep in a fucking hotel room and just get up and train every day like a soldier. Their mind is on one thing, this six-week-from-now event. And until then, I don't want to hear shit.
When Marvin Hagler's kid was born, he didn't go to the hospital. He wasn't at the hospital. He was in camp. Yeah, Marvin Hangler would go off to Provincetown, just down the Cape, and he would run. He would run in the fucking winter on the sand.
There's that famous Darren Till interview where he's saying, I've got a two-year-old daughter. Don't care. All I care about is legacy and greatness. Yeah. It's a high price that people pay. I mean, Sean Strickland, who continues to seem to be sparring like any YouTuber or streamer that's prepared to get into the ring with him.
Well, he beat up that kid who's a smaller-than-him streamer named Sneeko, which is not a good look. He beat the shit out of that guy. Yeah. I just don't know why he wanted to do that. It's so easy for him to beat that guy up.
It was what we were talking about before.
Yeah, it's not fair. It's just like, it's not really. I mean, the kid, I don't know what that kid thought. First of all, he's so silly for doing that, for agreeing to do that with Sean Strickland.
Because you know that he's never going to have that hold back.
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