#2172 - Sebastian Junger
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As I was saying, you're one of the last of the Mohicans rocking that flip phone. Yeah, that's right. I'm proud of it. Do you text people? Yeah, yeah, I text. Do you do the do-do-do-do-do, or it takes a bunch of times?
Well, it's something called T9. It's predictive texting, so it gives you a bunch of alternatives. You just have to do it all on a keypad with your thumb rather than with an iPhone where you have the full alphabet. But I bet that battery lasts like a week. I don't even travel with a charger, man. Really? Yeah, I mean, unless I'm gone for a week. But if I'm just gone for a couple of days and I don't have any long conversations planned, I don't even bother.
Wow. Yeah. All emailed, everything's handled at home. All on the laptop, right? Yeah, plus chicks do get mad. They do?
No.
What kind of chicks are you hanging around with? Savages.
No, at one point I was at CNN waiting to go on, and these two young women kept looking at me. This was like 10 years ago, so I plausibly could say to myself, well, maybe I still got it, right? Like, who knew, right? And then one of them noticed that I had noticed them looking at me, and she goes, oh, excuse me, sir, we can't believe that you have a flip phone. So I was like, well, that's the end of an era.
Ten years ago? Yeah.
Wow. Yeah.
Ten years ago, there was a few people out there that were hanging out. My friend Ari still had a flip phone ten years ago. Yeah. The only people I know now are you and David Tell. So you're in good company.
Yeah, that's right. It's cool. I'm telling you, it's cool. It's coming back. It's the next big thing.
Well, I know a lot of people, you know, they switch to what's called, I think it's called a simple phone. Is that what it's called, Jamie? What is that thing called? What's that? No, the little tiny, the one that's... It just gives you nothing but text messages. I think you can get music on it, too. I think it's called a simple phone. Do you read on a tablet, like one of those Kindles? I don't. Well, the great thing about those is they have this white paper-looking interface, so it doesn't look like a screen. It looks like paper. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what this little phone looks like, and it's the same sort of—that's what it is. Light phone. Yeah, that thing. So it has basically the same thing as your phone, except you could text like a normal human.
And it'll play music and has notes. It gives you directions, right? Yeah.
That's not bad. I mean, what I don't want is to get sucked into the algorithms of social media and all that garbage.
You don't want to get into the algorithms I'm in. You don't want. I have seen more people fall off buildings, get hit by cars, get shot, get stabbed.
And just not participate in their life, right?
Yeah.
Even if nothing bad happens. I mean, listen, man. I have young children. I have a 7-year-old girl and a 4-year-old girl. And we're at the playground. And I swear there are kids who fall. And I got to go. Kids, I don't know. I got to go over and, like, dust them off and comfort them because the mom or dad doesn't even know because they're on their phone.
Yeah.
Right. That's not parenting. I mean, like, what do you do?
Especially playgrounds, man. Playgrounds are still a little sketchy. You know, my daughter, when she was six, she broke her arm at school on a playground. Really? Actually, she was a little older than six. She might have been eight. But yeah, it's playgrounds are fucking scary, man. You know, you're swinging around and you're playing and kids fall the wrong way and.
And we're on the Lower East Side in New York City, so it's sketchy in some other ways, too. Oh, yeah. You've got to be awake, right?
Yeah.
You've got to be alert. And not only that, but you had kids. What do you do? Just enjoy this while you can. Right.
Right? Is the TikTok video more interesting than the human that you made?
Yeah, exactly.
You guys made humans. I mean, that still freaks me out to this day, even when they're mad at me.
I'm like, I just can't believe you made you.
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