Jacques Vallée is a venture capitalist, technologist, and prominent figure in the field of unidentified aerial phenomena. His new book is Forbidden Science 6: Scattered Castles, The Journals of Jacques Vallee 2010-2019. www.jacquesvallee.net This episode is brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Now this is taxes. Get an expert now at TurboTax.com This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Very good to see you good to see you.
I really enjoyed our conversation last night. We all went out to dinner and how put off blew my mind.
As you know, I've known him for a long time. Yeah, when did you meet him? What year? I knew him at SRI. Actually, I was at Stanford Research Institute before him in one of the very early internet research teams. When there was no Internet, it was called the ARPANET. It was a network of the Advanced Research Project Agency, and it was all computer experiment and so on.
We had engine number three on the Internet at SRI in California. Engine number three on the ARPANET. By the time I joined them, there were like 30 machines already. Wow. And it was exciting. And then, you know, Dr. Puthoff and Russell Tarr came in with a proposal to SRI to do parapsychology research at SRI. which had never been done.
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So the ARPANET was around 74. Yeah. Wow. It was funny because I was in my office and the vice president of SRI came in, closed the door and said, Jacques, you've published some things that are controversial under your name. on UFOs, and you haven't lost your scientific reputation, which is why you're here working for us at SRI on the ARPANET.
You know, there's a proposal from Dr. Puthoff and Dr. Tark to do parapsychology research here. And we've never done that. And I said, well, you know, it's a very valid – I think it's a very valid area of research. We should – you know, we're the kind of institution that should do that. He said, well, let me draw something on your whiteboard. And he drew a scale.
And on one side, there was a little square. He said, this is the most we can expect in terms of funding for research in parapsychology. It's maybe at most a million a year. And here is what I manage in this division. He drew a huge cube. It said $150 million.
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