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#2307 - Tim Dillon

Sat, 19 Apr 2025

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Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. Look for his new comedy special, "Tim Dillon: I'm Your Mother," now streaming on Netflix. www.netflix.com/title/81992010 www.timdilloncomedy.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What are the challenges and realities of commercial space flights?

31.172 - 40.025 Jamie

It shows you how quick the flight was. The dead daisy that's like snipped from its life source was still alive or still vibrant.

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40.325 - 41.888 Unknown

Yeah. And it's so, it's always.

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41.928 - 46.274 Jamie

Shout out daisy. Wow. Look at her nails. So pretty.

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47.051 - 53.876 Peter Thiel

Now, so they go up there and they float for like 10 minutes. At least. And then they come down. Let's not minimize this. No, I know.

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Chapter 2: Who are the female astronauts and what risks do they face?

53.916 - 74.65 Jamie

It's a big deal. Let's celebrate female astronauts. Because they were united. Because a lot of men astronauts, they have to go to school. Right. They have to learn how to be a pilot first. Then they have to join the Air Force or the Navy. And then they get appointed by NASA. That's right. And then they go to space. You know?

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75.49 - 82.09 Peter Thiel

And there has been, that's the other thing, there has been female astronauts. Let's not minimize this. Let's not minimize this.

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83.764 - 106.823 Jamie

I think there was a bitch stuck on a space station for a few months. That's terribly more impressive. Let's not minimize this. No, the problem with that story is that she was rescued by a very awful person who wants to expose fraud and waste. Yes. Did Musk rescue her? Yes. Oh, interesting. Yeah, I didn't know. Oh, where's that in the news? Oh, I didn't know that. Those fucking people were stuck.

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106.923 - 126.131 Jamie

The Boeing jet, the skyline, whatever the fuck it is, the Boeing spaceship wasn't working. They couldn't fix it. Interesting. I didn't even know that. Yeah. And by the way, Elon could have rescued them during the Biden administration. They didn't want to because of his open support for Trump. So they left those people up there. Yes. He's talked about it on my podcast.

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126.171 - 131.214 Jamie

They left those people up there. And they're just chilling. No, they're dying.

131.634 - 131.934 Tim Dillon

Right.

131.954 - 152.907 Jamie

It's like slow radiation poisoning. It's like getting 10 x-rays a day. And they're just slowly getting sapped of your life force out there in no gravity. Your bones are weakening. Did you see that lady's face when she came back? She didn't look great. Bro, something had happened, like her chin had grown. Her chin was extended and her hair had all turned gray. She looked like she was sick.

153.587 - 176.399 Jamie

She was sick. You're dying up there, man. That's crazy. I had Commander Chris Hatfield on, and he was at one point in time the longest person that had been in space from, wasn't he? He was there for like six months. And he was saying it was unbelievable how difficult it was to recover once you get back to Earth. He couldn't walk. It was just, like, a total vertigo.

176.839 - 182.261 Jamie

Like, his whole body was, like, so not used to gravity. All of his bones were weak. All of his muscles were weak.

Chapter 3: What controversies surround media and political coverage today?

653.569 - 657.812 Peter Thiel

It is funny to do something like this and then everyone hates you. Like everyone hates them now.

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657.832 - 673.93 Jamie

They shouldn't hate her. Oh, no, that's not it, Jamie. I'll send it to you. I have so many of them. I don't think that one has the making space. Try this one. It's so fun with people. Why is it so fun when people get pretentious?

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674.31 - 680.9 Peter Thiel

I guess because you're terrified that you would ever do it. Well, yeah, and I also think it's fun to see somebody who has no self-awareness. They're always the most fun.

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682.285 - 706.25 Unknown

I will never be the same. I mean, when you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen and it's not just your window. It's like everybody's window and there's no boundaries. There's no border. There's just earth and it just fills the screen. I mean, you get up there and you see the earth and it's so beautiful and it just fills the screen.

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706.27 - 708.35 Unknown

Is it what you expected?

710.353 - 728.681 Tim Dillon

No. No. Better? I don't think you can describe it. Because you know what I was saying? It was like quiet, but then also really alive. And you look at it and you're like, we're all in this together.

729.141 - 748.851 Unknown Speaker

You mentioned to us prior to going up, you said that you needed to go to space to heal. I know you're only a few minutes removed from this incredible experience. Do you feel healed? Now you are officially an astronaut. Thank you so much. How do you feel? I feel super connected to love.

749.752 - 753.715 Unknown

Goodness. I will never be the same. I mean, when you get up there.

753.755 - 761.381 Jamie

No, that's it. That's it. There's another one. There's another one. She said making space. How great is it that they just get called astronauts?

Chapter 4: How do intelligence agencies and deep state impact government transparency?

2207.452 - 2224.118 Jamie

You should try to connect. If it's not America that did it, if it's not us, it's not intelligence agencies that did it, then it means a foreign government that hijacked this kid's brain and got him to climb on top of that roof. Somebody tried to get someone to assassinate a guy who was running for president, and no one seems to be interested in finding who that person or that group was.

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2224.438 - 2225.839 Jamie

who influenced this kid is.

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2226.24 - 2244.593 Peter Thiel

So many of these ex-intelligence chiefs pop up all over the world. They pop up in Dubai. They pop up on MSNBC. They love traveling. They're having meetings with people. They're all over the place. They love people. They love people. They love cultures. They love meeting different cultures. Yeah, the food's great.

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2244.833 - 2266.234 Peter Thiel

And supposedly I heard from someone who's, again, smart and I consider trustworthy that there's actually large sectors of the global economy that are moved more in this direction than you'd think. Like there are tentacles into very large investment banks and private equity companies that a lot of these guys have. Let's put it that way. Obviously, it's not a shocking thing.

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2267.395 - 2277.125 Jamie

Why would the government let a private equity company operate with impunity? Right. Especially if they're controlling regulations and they're like, let's work together.

2277.946 - 2282.15 Peter Thiel

There doesn't seem to be a good answer to any of this. That becomes the real issue.

2282.53 - 2288.916 Jamie

You ever get invited to these like – fucking Illuminati conferences or any of these crazy things?

2288.996 - 2296.461 Peter Thiel

No, they wanted me to do stand-up at one conference and it wasn't like an Illuminati kind of thing. It was like a... I don't know. It was like some type of low-grade Illuminati.

2296.722 - 2306.289 Jamie

Yeah. That's how they start. That kind of faux Illuminati. That's like the minor leagues. Yeah. And then eventually you go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming. Well, that sounds nice.

Chapter 5: What role do tech companies and AI play in society and politics?

3600.039 - 3625.961 Peter Thiel

Well, it's being done everywhere, right? So it's being done at the highest levels. And I think people are uncomfortable with, And just losing – even though a lot of them realized that we didn't have a ton of control, they feel like – I think when you head into the world of tech where people just don't even know where this goes, where does it go? Does it go to transhumanism?

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3625.981 - 3645.026 Peter Thiel

Does it go to like AI replacing everybody and then at what point – What do you do with those people that AI replaced? Do you give them all cryptocurrency that's linked to their biological whatever? I've heard all these ideas, right? How do you deal with driverless cars where the entire road is automated? How do you deal with that?

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3645.546 - 3658.11 Peter Thiel

I think that fills people with an anxiety where they go, what is the plan? And a lot of these tech guys are like, well, we've got to get off the planet. And I think people start going like, wait a minute. That's Weinstein. Eric Weinstein.

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3658.13 - 3662.015 Jamie

Well, that's a lot of people. That's a lot of people saying that. I don't know what you're saying.

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3662.035 - 3662.776 Peter Thiel

There's a lot of people.

3662.796 - 3664.758 Jamie

There's no air on Mars. Let's not go there.

3664.979 - 3685.735 Peter Thiel

Yeah. Well, for sure. For sure. Do you think Trump and Musk will have a falling out eventually? I don't know. It's a good question. The media keeps trying to push that they are. It feels like they're just big personalities and that there's an inevitability when you have two guys that are incredibly, you know. Perhaps.

3685.936 - 3707.67 Jamie

Alpha. But Elon is very smart. And you see he's always very deferential. Yeah. And he's always very respectful. Mr. President. It's always that. Well, of course. Call him sir. Yeah. That's how I treat him. I always call him sir. It's Donald Trump. Yeah, I get it. You're fired. I get it. But he's also the president of the United States. I call him sir. But I call everybody sir. Yeah.

3707.87 - 3711.612 Jamie

I call everybody sir. Yeah. It's like the byproduct of me living in Texas now. Right.

Chapter 6: How is crime and drug policy evolving in American cities like Austin and Portland?

4203.077 - 4210.148 Jamie

I mean, that's part of the Pacific Northwest probably. Yeah, you get killed up there. People die up there all the time. Did you ever see that documentary Sasquatch?

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4211.19 - 4232.641 Jamie

It's a documentary that was on, was it on Hulu, Jamie? We had the director in it, the guy who created it. It was awesome. And what it's really about is about marijuana growers murdered a guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot. Wow. So these marijuana growers in Humboldt, up that area, so they all were hippies, right?

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4232.881 - 4253.389 Jamie

And then they started growing weed, and then cartel people moved in, and gangs moved in, and they started robbing these people. So these people became heavily armed. And so then they started having... wars with like the growers and cartel people. And so there was these people that were trying to steal from them. They murdered these people and then they blamed it on Bigfoot.

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4253.729 - 4256.79 Jamie

They like ran over him with a fucking backhoe and crushed his body.

4256.81 - 4263.372 Peter Thiel

These hippies are really violent. Oh, they get violent once it's money. These hippies are junkies and you know, like this whole hippie thing I think is kind of a lie.

4264.252 - 4283.688 Jamie

Well, they all become people with money if you're growing weed. You become a multimillionaire who's carrying a sidearm. And you're going to protect your money. And then these people are trying to kill you to take your shit. So then you're like fucking Jason whatever his name is in Ozark. Right. Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman. Right. And now you're a drug dealer.

4284.409 - 4300.878 Peter Thiel

That's so funny. It's so funny the weird like marijuana where it's like it's federally still illegal, but like states, it's legal in certain states. Yeah. And there's that gray area where there's just like you have half of that business is like in the shadows and half of it's and people making lots of money. It's strange.

4300.978 - 4320.85 Jamie

Well, not only that, because California made it legal, they also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally. Right. So what happens is these cartels started growing it on national forest land. And so then game wardens started finding it. There's a guy named John Norris who's been on the podcast before. He wrote a book called Hidden War. Yeah.

Chapter 7: What are the realities of wilderness survival and missing persons cases?

4339.684 - 4352.812 Jamie

So in the places where it is illegal, they grow it where it's legal, and if they get busted, it's just a misdemeanor. So it doesn't matter. And they're not going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary state. Right, so it doesn't matter how many acres and acres of weed. Exactly, exactly.

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4352.952 - 4353.252 Unknown

Yeah.

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4353.493 - 4372.06 Jamie

And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when there was a prohibition that propped up organized crime. Same thing. You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that has a demand that normal. Do you think weed is going to be federally legal? If I had to guess, not during this administration. Yeah. No, I don't think.

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4372.44 - 4392.373 Peter Thiel

It feels like a lot of the experimental harm reduction policies in places like Portland are going the other way. Well, they went a little crazy in a place that was already crazy. Yeah, they had a woman driving around shooting people up called the stabbing wagon. And she was like, if somebody needed a fix, she'd pull up and give them clean needles and stuff.

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4392.574 - 4393.494 Jamie

Is it really called the stabbing wagon?

4393.514 - 4394.555 Peter Thiel

It was called the stabbing wagon.

4394.735 - 4395.015 Jamie

For real?

4395.095 - 4401.775 Peter Thiel

Yeah, because you're stabbing. And if you're just tweeting. No, this is like a way to help. Oh, Portland.

4401.795 - 4403.437 Unknown

This was a way to help people. Oh, Portland is so beautiful.

Chapter 8: What is the future of political leadership and societal control in America?

4972.317 - 4980.806 Jamie

Sure, and they always have. I mean, that's back to Smedley Butler's War is a Racket. That's right, a thousand percent. Yeah, and that was 1933 he wrote that or something.

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4981.106 - 4993.679 Peter Thiel

And that's the way the whole thing seems to be organized. Yeah, and always has been. We're just learning it now. You know, that's all the difference. But it is falling apart now because some of their kids are doing stand-up comedy. No, literally.

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4993.699 - 5012.572 Peter Thiel

I mean, there are people, they're young in New York and they're just like, their parents are some of the wealthiest people in the world and these kids are like doing stand-up, which is a terrible sign for the empire. That's not a great sign for the empire is that like a guy that would have taken over his dad's business is like doing dick jokes.

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5012.692 - 5022.875 Jamie

Well, he probably has a trust fund. So he probably has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun. It's like, I want to have fun. I want to be like my dad. Yeah. Have a fucking heart attack when I'm 49.

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5023.196 - 5042.88 Peter Thiel

That's right. But we need them doing that. Some of them. Having heart attacks? Yes. Everyone can't be a clown? There is something deeply unhealthy about the Illuminati doing stand-up. I don't love that idea. Well, unless they're using ChatGPT, how good could their material be?

5042.98 - 5051.863 Jamie

It's not ideal. It can't be. It's a lot of crowd work. And even if they do use ChatGPT, ChatGPT has not shown any ability to really craft a good joke yet.

5051.943 - 5064.212 Peter Thiel

It's just funny to meet some of these people, and then you talk to them, and they'll just casually drop that they're like, you know... Their parents are like billionaires. And you're like, that's awesome, man. And they're just doing bar shows. It's kind of interesting.

5064.953 - 5083.049 Peter Thiel

And they're nice people, but just to pull out and look at it from a sociological standpoint, it says something about people's idea of the future that these people just want to be famous now. How many of them are there? That's more than you'd think. Really? Yeah. And it's a New York thing? Yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there.

5083.069 - 5094.414 Peter Thiel

And I'm talking about mega rich, like not like, hey, my dad's a successful whatever. I'm talking about like, whoa. Billions. Big money. Yeah. Where you go, interesting.

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