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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2318 - Harold "Sonny" White

08 May 2025

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Dr. Harold “Sonny” White is a physicist and aerospace engineer specializing in advanced propulsion, particularly warp drive physics. Formerly leading NASA’s Advanced Propulsion Team at Johnson Space Center, he is now the founder and CEO of Casimir, a deep-tech startup focused on developing breakthrough power-generating nanotechnology. Casimir’s innovations have the potential to transform sustainable energy on Earth and may lay the groundwork for future advancements in interstellar propulsion systems.www.casimirspace.com Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at drinkag1.com/joerogan This episode is brought to you by Visible. Join now at visible.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1.97 - 5.793 Announcer

Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

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6.214 - 9.556 Joe Rogan

Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

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9.576 - 17.822 Harold 'Sonny' White

What's up? Hey, how's it going, Joe? Pleasure to meet you. Yeah, thank you for having me here today. I appreciate it.

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18.082 - 20.724 Joe Rogan

My pleasure. Well, as soon as I saw the subject, I was like, oh yeah.

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21.025 - 37.701 Harold 'Sonny' White

Like, what are you doing? Right, right, right. Advanced power and propulsion. Kind of been a passion of mine for the last 20 some odd years. I suppose if I kind of look back through the annals of my life, right, I've been thinking about advanced power and propulsion ever since I was a teenager.

38.402 - 45.531 Joe Rogan

What do you think inspired that? Was it space missions? Did you look at it and go, I think we can do better? Like what was it?

46.556 - 72.442 Harold 'Sonny' White

Well, you know, I grew up in Washington, D.C., and so I got a chance to spend a lot of time in the air and space Smithsonian. I don't know if you've ever had a chance to go to that. But growing up in D.C., getting a chance to go to the air and space Smithsonian, I got to see all these – Awesome examples of people working together to try and accomplish amazing things. Right.

72.482 - 90.759 Harold 'Sonny' White

And, you know, you might walk into the Air and Space Smithsonian and you just think about, wow, this is full of a bunch of stuff. But it's not just about the stuff. Right. It's about the people that worked together to do all these amazing things. Right. Like the Bell X-1 rocket. I mean, if you really want to go back, the Wright Flyer rocket.

91.059 - 112.741 Harold 'Sonny' White

That's something where two guys worked together that made bicycles for a living that decided to go create something that flew. And then in less than 50, 60 years from when they flew that Wright Flyer, we're putting human beings on the surface of the moon. And so all that really resonated with me as a kid. And I think –

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