Kash Patel is the Director of the FBI, appointed in February 2025. A former federal public defender, national security prosecutor, and senior official in both the Department of Justice and the Trump administration, he has held roles across the Intelligence Community, Department of Defense, and National Security Council.www.fbi.gov Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day All right. What's going on, man? How you doing, Joe? Very good to see you, sir. Thanks for having me in Austin. What is it like to be the head of the FBI?
How weird is that? It's completely effing wild. I mean, I don't even know how to describe it.
What did you think it was going to be like and what was different once you got in there?
I thought that we were going to be able to come in with the movement that President Trump came in with the administration to fix this, fix the errors that the leadership of the FBI previously made, not like the 37000 change people. And we are we're doing a ton of work. I didn't know we would be able to do it this quickly is my surprise.
And what that showed me was the people at the Bureau, literally people who have been there 30-year agents are coming up to me like, dude, we wanted to do that 15 years ago. Really? We wanted to do that 10 years ago. And then my question was like, you guys are the pros. Like I'm just – my job as the director, I'm not chasing down bad guys.
I don't know how to do that, is to give them what you need and get the hell out of the way. And they were like, dude, all they did was get in the way.
So what kind of stuff specifically did you start doing that they wanted to do 15 years ago?
Simple. The one that I've taken the biggest heat for. You know, when I said, hey, there are... These are the statistics from the USG, so you can take them or leave them, right? I don't know where else to go because nobody else does these, right? In the last calendar year, not this one, the year before last, 100,000 people were dying of drug overdoses a year. That's one every seven minutes.
A child or kid was being raped every six and a half minutes in this country. And there were two homicides an hour in this country. And we have a 38,000-person workforce. And I said, OK, where are where are the agents? Where are Intel analysts? Where is everybody? We got 55 field offices. We got 300 what we call RAs, resident agencies. So satellite offices, the field offices in major cities.
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