Dr. Roman Yampolskiy is a computer scientist, AI safety researcher, and professor at the University of Louisville. He’s the author of several books, including "Considerations on the AI Endgame," co-authored with Soenke Ziesche, and "AI: Unexplained, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable."http://cecs.louisville.edu/ry/ Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @TrueClassic at https://trueclassic.com/rogan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Well, thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it.
My pleasure. Thank you for inviting me.
This subject of the dangers of AI, it's very interesting because I get two very different responses from people dependent upon how invested they are.
in uh ai financially the the people that have ai companies or are part of some sort of ai group all are like it's going to be a net positive for humanity i think overall we're we're going to have much better lives it's going to be easier things will be cheaper it'll be easier to get along and then i hear people like you and i'm like why do i believe him
It's actually not true. All of them are on record as saying, this is going to kill us. Whatever it's Sam Altman or anyone else, they all at some point were leaders in AI safety work. They published on AI safety and their PDOM levels are insanely high. Not like mine, but still 20, 30% chance that humanity dies is a little too much.
Yeah, that's pretty high, but yours is like 99.9.
It's another way of saying we can't control super intelligence indefinitely. It's impossible.
When did you start working on this?
Long time ago. So my PhD was, I finished in 2008. I did work on online casino security, basically preventing bots. And at that point, I realized bots are getting much better. They're going to out-compete us, obviously, in poker, but also in stealing cyber resources. And from then on, I've been kind of trying to scale it to the next level AI.
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