Chapter 1: What humorous exchange opens the podcast episode?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day who me all right i didn't know you were talking talking to one of us there's only three of us in here yeah I don't know, dude. The glasses, man. What's the new sophisticated look? Yeah, I got them. What the fuck's going on? I see. I see you got them. Yeah, they're great, man. My buddy Joseph gave them to me.
I got them from him. Yeah? Yeah, and they're popping. And they help, too. Yeah? Yeah. Are you losing your vision? I don't think so, but I think these just make it even better. Okay. Let me see. Let me try them. See how bad your eyes are. Try them on, big dog. Oh, barely. Barely. I could get them weighted, too, so you could do a neck workout where you have them on. Why would you do that?
This is... God, I can't tell the difference. Are you sure these are real? I think they are. I don't think these are real glasses, dog. Let me see. I don't think they... Jamie, put these on. First of all, they're smeared as fuck. Yeah, somehow they keep getting grease on them, dude. You got greasy fucking fingers. What? You're rubbing your greasy face. I don't even go in the kitchen.
You don't need grease.
Chapter 2: How do glasses play a role in the conversation?
You don't need to go in the kitchen for grease. Barely tell the difference, right? It's doing something, but... Barely. Barely. This is psychological.
It's like if you're not 2020, you're 2025.
These are psychological, dog. You don't think they're good? No, that's not what I'm saying. I mean, they're fine. Yes, sir. You look smart. I'm watching. I've been reading too much. I think it's a psychological thing. Yeah, it could be. I believe that they make you see better. My vision's okay. It's not as good as it was when I was young. I've got to read the packaging again.
But it's a lot better than it used to be. I started using a red light, a red light bed. It makes a giant difference, man. Really? Huge difference. Yeah, I don't need reading glasses anymore. I needed reading glasses for a while. Like, look at my phone. Like, it was fine text. I don't need it at all anymore. And that's because of the red light. Oh, yeah, 100%.
Yeah, red light therapy and certain vitamins like lutein. There's a few different. There's a company called Pure Encapsulations. They make a formulation called macular support, and I take that stuff. But those two things, for sure, have had a big impact. I think it's the red light, though, more than anything. That's the big factor. I've been doing sauna, and I've been getting in there.
It feels good. I feel like a little dumpling when I get out of there. It's good. Yeah. Right? Yeah, it feels good. Yeah. Get that body all heated up and everything just kind of flows out of you. I saw a protocol of what you're supposed to do before you get in there, and I've never done any of these things. But it's like how much water you're supposed to drink before you go in.
Fuck all that, dude. Like 45 minutes you're supposed to go. You're supposed to drink like a liter of water with electrolytes and some magnesium. I don't know. Some guy made this. That's the problem. Everybody's an online guru. Yeah, well, everybody, everything they watch, it's like they think you're trying to get in the Olympics. It's like, bitch, I'm just trying to fucking get to work.
You know what I'm saying, bitch? I'm just trying to fucking. I just want to feel a little bit better. Yeah, I'm just trying to make it out of my garage. Give me an edge. Give me an edge on this cold, hard world. Yeah, that's the only thing, man. That's all I'm looking for. But good to see you, dude. Good to see you always, my friend. I'm glad you're still alive. You too.
I'm glad you're still alive too. Amen. We've both been interviewing dangerous people. Have we, you think? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. You really have. Who have I interviewed that you haven't? It's more dangerous.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about vision and health?
Oh, I don't know. That's a good question. I mean, I did... I don't... Yeah, I don't think I've had people that's that dangerous. Maybe Thomas Massey. Oh, did you have him on? Yeah. Yeah, they all hate him right now. This is a sad thing about both political parties, not just the right but the left too, is they decide that they're going to gang up on someone for not toeing the line. Yeah.
You know, like whatever happened to having different opinions? Whatever happened to having different perspectives and being able to argue your perspective? Yeah. But then they have these goofy-ass bills, which, by the way, they just fucking slipped something into this last bill that Mitch McConnell guy did, I believe. Make sure that he did it. The hemp thing.
They slip this thing in where you can no longer buy CBD with like, it has to be like the lowest trace amount of THC in it, which is for like, like my wife's mom, you know, she's an older lady and she takes CBD for pain, for joints and stuff like that. Does she smoke it or she does the ointment? No, she takes like oil, like CBD oil. Yeah, he's not getting in there. That old fucking dead turtle.
He's a leading proponent of closing a 2018 Farm Bill loophole, allowing intoxicating THC to be sold in low doses. But he's got a couple of fucking milligrams in his neck. Look at that motherfucker. He's got something going on. They definitely got him medicated. There ain't no way that guy's sleeping without help. Everybody hates him. It looks like he hit a joint and it won't leave him alone.
Go back up and choke him?
Like took an edible. He like Joey Diaz dosed him. He looks like he's on the church. He's on the church of what's happening now. Joey Diaz and Lee are just staring at him. Yeah. They got to change that. That's really bad. Why is it bad? Because for people that are getting benefits from CBD, the THC along with the CBD. And by the way, we're talking super, super low amounts.
But there's something about how CBD and THC work in a synergistic way for people that are in a lot of pain. Um, I know a lot of people, like I said, my wife's mom, she says the stuff with the THC in it works better and it's not getting her high. Like this is the misunderstanding. This stuff's not going to get you high, but what it will do is it helps with anxiety for a lot of people.
it definitely reduces inflammation. And for people that have joint pain, like my friend Dave Foley, Dave Foley from News Radio, Kids in the Hall, Dave Foley, awesome guy. Dave had pretty severe arthritis in his hands, where he was really having a hard time opening his hands. Started taking CBD oil. Can you open a jar or anything like that? You think was it hard? It was a pain, man. It was bad.
But now it's gone. And it's gone because of CBD. It's really effective, man. It's really effective. And so what they're saying that they don't want you to, why are they doing that? Because they want to control it? It's the alcohol lobby. It's the same people that are trying to keep marijuana illegal in Texas. It's the alcohol lobby. This is the fact.
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Chapter 4: What charitable work does Gary Sinise do for veterans?
Yeah. So it's like if you want to do something where the Navy's involved, you have to have people there from the Navy that are, like, overseeing it and making sure that everything is presented appropriately. to be true to the Navy, but also like there could be maybe some manipulation there, but we just had Gary Sinise was on the podcast, man. It was really cool. Oh, he's cool.
Dude, if you ever want to donate to something where people do, man, wouldn't it just an impressive, his whole organization. What is he doing? Well, he does a lot of stuff for veterans, right? He does a lot of stuff for first responders or EMTs. He does a lot of stuff for ā he does this thing where they take kids who have lost a parent in military action.
He takes them to Disney World every year, like this big group of them. Yeah. Just, but just like really like does it, you know? Like he has a band that plays. There's a bunch of organizations. He was like one of the first responders of out there feeding people, feeding the first responders who were there at the Palisades when that happened.
Chapter 5: How did Theo Von's childhood influence his career path?
Just like a lot of neat stuff, you know? Big heart, big heart. Did you ever think you'd be in the position you're in where you're just having all these weird conversations with interesting people? Because this is not like- No. When I first met you, I would have never suspected that this would be a path that you would go down. Yeah, not at all. It's interesting that you went down that.
What led you to want to start doing that? Well, I think a couple of things. I think ā well, I think I didn't know I was kind of competitive in some ways. Like I think ā I think I'm kind of competitive. Like I want to see what's possible that's maybe inside of me. So competitive with yourself or competitive with other people that are also doing it?
Just competitive because I think I felt like maybe some people thought this thing like, oh, this guy can't do it. Oh, interesting. I think there were some people that were maybe like, oh, I'm surprised that this guy enjoys this or likes doing it. But I think there was like... Yeah, this guy can't do it. And I just never had a voice when I was a kid, you know? I never had a voice. Right.
You know, so much of my childhood, I think I just couldn't even speak up for myself. I didn't even know what I wanted to say.
Chapter 6: What are the challenges of discussing sensitive topics in podcasts?
I didn't even know what my feelings were, right? I just, I was just like this. I just, it just felt.
tough you know and so i think when yeah when i started to kind of get into podcasting and have a little bit more of a voice and then to get to talk to some people that i that that i felt like were important that weren't getting voices like even like we had a doctor from gaza on last year or this year and that was like a moment for me i was like oh this is important stuff you know like um other people aren't putting this voice out there right some people are but like the mainstream media i don't feel like was doing a good job of it
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They're on the train for hours every day. They're in the gym. They're doing different stuff where they want to listen to things. Or when they come home, they don't want to watch late night TV. They want to watch an interesting conversation, you know. Yeah. They didn't know that that was a thing. That's all that was. We snuck in. I think we snuck in. I think they had no idea.
They thought this was just shitty radio. Yeah. And I think my whole life, I think people looked at me and thought, oh, this dude's just fucking shitty radio. Or I felt like that in a way. And I still think it is. I mean, look, I feel lucky to have a show. We work hard with podcasting. I feel lucky to get to talk to a lot of people. I don't think we do a lot of information type of stuff.
And I wish we could do better with that sometimes. I think maybe that's a goal of mine next year is to try to ā
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Chapter 7: What reflections does Theo Von share about his journey and growth?
Was it like 10 years ago? No way. Eight?
It's been a while.
Yeah, man, I can't believe that it's all been going on this long. Yeah, I would have never imagined that you would go down this road and be really good at it, man. You're real sincere with people. You ask real good questions.
Chapter 8: How do Theo and his guest discuss the balance between humor and sincerity in conversations?
You're very present. You're funny, but you're also trying to really understand what they're saying. That's a delicate balance. Be silly and be funny, but also pay respect to whatever they're trying to say and try to figure out where they're coming from. Yeah. Well, thanks, dude. Yeah. I try to be. I think there's been a couple times where it's like... Yeah, I try to be.
I don't really know what I'm, you know, like I don't not know what I'm doing. I mean, I work hard, right? Like I work hard. You figure it out as you go along, right? Yeah. And I'm still kind of figuring it out, you know? I don't know sometimes like what like my purpose is in it or. You don't have to have a purpose. You don't think? Maybe that's a trap, huh? Yeah, it's a trap. But I do care.
I think you should have a direction. I do notice I meet a lot of people and I care about what's going on in their lives. Yeah, that's a direction. That's good. Yeah. That's better. That makes me feel important. That makes me feel not important to me, but of. some value, right?
Like even last week when we had Gary Sinise on, he was talking about his son, like his son passed away of cancer, like within the past year. And just talking about his son, right? Like it was just nice. You know, it was nice for us to sit there together and just talk about his son, right?
Like stuff like that, like I think it just makes me feel like, I don't know, that kind of stuff means something to me. So do you feel like in your regular life you're not connected enough to people that are talking to you like that? Is that it?
Yeah.
Man, that's kind of interesting. I think I do sometimes have a problem with connection sometimes, you know? So you somehow or another can be more connected publicly than you can be privately? Dude, is that so weird you say that? I've thought about that before. Well, I thought about that because of my friendship with you.
Because, like, sometimes you tell me things on air that you don't tell me things in private. And sometimes in private, you know, look, I love you very much. And... I was trying to reach out. Because the last thing you want is a friend that maybe is going through some shit, not doing well, and maybe you could have reached out and you didn't. Yeah, for sure. That feeling. It's a terrible feeling.
Yeah. You know, that you could have helped your friend and you didn't help your friend. You know, but... You have a hard time expressing yourself in person sometimes. Sometimes I'd be asking, tell me what's up. Tell me what's bothering you. Tell me how do you feel? What did you do? And there's a thing where I was almost like a blockade where you'd rather just ignore it. You know what I mean?
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