Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day What's up, Dan? How are you? Good to see you. Good. Good to see you, man. Good to see you again. First time I saw you was the first time I saw your documentary, which is fucking excellent. Thank you, bro. The Age of Disclosure, really good. Can't recommend it enough.
If you're a UFO dork like myself, and you're in and out, sometimes you're like, this is bullshit. Maybe it's real. This is bullshit. Maybe I'm wasting my time. Maybe it's real. Maybe it's... Go see The Age of Disclosure, and then you'll be...
Chapter 2: How does Dan Farah describe the impact of his documentary?
Fully in the I don't fucking know, but something's going on. That's where I am right now. I don't know, but something's going on.
Definitely something going on. It's a real situation.
Yeah, it's a real weird one. When you see all these high-level government employees talking about secret access programs and back engineering programs that have been going on for decades and decades and secrecy, and you're like...
Your documentary did a fantastic job of highlighting a couple of reasons why I always – when people are skeptical and they go, okay, if there was a program like this, why wouldn't they just tell us? You have to really understand the consequences of what they've done because what they've done is lie to Congress for a long time. It's misappropriation of funds, clear felonies.
Lie to the public, lie to Congress, lie to sitting presidents. Just the money stuff. And also, let's just be really – Let's be just honest about human nature. If you have complete access to enormous amounts of money that's not under any oversight at all, for sure some of it went in the pockets of people that probably shouldn't have got it. A hundred percent.
I think it's safe to say. A hundred percent. It has to. Everyone I've talked to who's aware of the details of the Deeply Hidden Legacy program says that it's at least over a trillion dollars spent since the 40s.
Oh, my God.
It's an enormous amount of money.
Oh, my God.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of government secrecy on UFO phenomena?
But by the time you get to be a high-level operative in the United States government, I'm guessing you can keep a fucking secret.
Yeah. And if you're told, hey, you can just disappear one day or you can have your reputation ruined. You're going to get blackmailed about this or that. You're just going to keep quiet. Yeah, people can keep secrets.
And by the way, not everybody does. The Bob Lazar story to this day is like that documentary by Jeremy Corbell was the reason why I went all the way back in with UFOs. I'm like, all right, God damn it. I believe Bob. It's a great talk. It's a great talk. Great talk. And that one's available. It's Bob Lazar, Area 51 and Flying Saucers. Is that the name of it, the title of it?
Something along those lines. Fantastic documentary.
For me, look, my childhood was the 80s and early 90s. I grew up on movies like E.T. and Close Encounters and TV shows like X-Files and movies like Fire in the Sky. Remember that movie? Oh, yeah.
I had Travis in here.
Yeah, you did. I loved that interview. Fantastic. That movie gave me nightmares. Crazy. Kept me up as a kid.
A couple of those guys on that crew hated him. Like one of them he got in a fist fight with that day.
Yeah.
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Chapter 4: How does the conversation address the potential for future disclosure?
If they are real, are they here to help us? Are they monitoring us? One of the creepiest things that Bob Lazar said is that they look at us like containers, right? And I was like, what does that mean? Containers of souls is what I interpreted from it, but that's just me. But what does that mean, containers?
It seems like human beings have an insatiable desire to innovate and create better technology. And that seems to be leading us into AI and seems to be leading us into probably what connects us with the rest of the universe, the rest of the intelligence of the universe. But the stuff that got us here is being these territorial apes.
That's why we developed cities and that's why we developed agriculture. That's why we had enough free time to innovate. We had enough free time to invent things and change things. Our nature is really what holds us back because we're still constantly warring. It hasn't changed at all.
No, it's crazy that we're still threatening nuclear war 80 years after dropping the bomb on Japan. We're still invading sovereign nations.
We're involved in a proxy war. We're helping Israel. It's like there's so much chaos and death going on in the world because of human beings and the decisions that they're making that if I was an intelligent life species— from somewhere else. I'd be very concerned. Yeah, I'd be like, here's this group of monkeys on a trajectory. About to make a digital god.
They're real close to having super intelligence in digital form. And these idiots are still blowing themselves up from the sky. Yeah.
Which also... is why one of the current dilemmas exists, right? So this technology exists. Private defense contractors have this technology. Elements of the government have this technology.
You're convinced?
Beyond convinced.
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Chapter 5: What unusual experiences do military personnel report after UFO encounters?
They said it took it and went back down.
Yo.
Yeah.
How big was the big one?
They said it was big. Just big. That's the only word they used, to be honest. Yeah. And the guy was rattled because the guy was in the water. The seal was in the water hooking a line to this craft. And then when the helicopter pulled out, he said he was in the water just shitting his pants and taking in this extraordinary experience. Was he wearing a vest?
I'm sure he's wearing his frogman outfit.
Or is he just fucking doggy paddling? Leave him there in the fucking water. These guys panic and pull out. Maybe the UFO would have let you take it.
All these situations are really bonkers.
I wonder what would have happened if they were like, fuck you, we're taking it.
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Chapter 6: How does the conversation shift to the implications of transparency regarding UAP?
And that's a whole nother level of accountability. You know, there's people whose medical bills should have been paid for. They shouldn't have been put in those situations. You know, there's families growing up without a dad because dad encountered a UFO on behalf of the U.S. government and died. Jesus. So that's a whole other side of this.
So is this them getting cancer from being around the object or being around biologics or both?
The object. The object. Yeah. Once you understand that these craft are warping space-time in a localized area and creating immense amount of energy, getting close to it's like getting close to a huge electrical system. It's bad.
That's the Travis Walton story. It's a lot of stories. Travis Walton in particular, that's what he said happened. He got close to the object. and something zapped him. Whether it was an actual targeted attack or whether it was just something, a reaction to him being so close to this energy that he was thrown back, knocked unconscious, gravely hurt, and that they took off.
Yeah, I've spoken off the record to some intelligence officials who have managed to actually get the government to take accountability and give them anonymous health injury status, AHI status, which has only gone to victims of quote-unquote Havana syndrome.
And it's a real situation, but not everyone has the relationships or the ability to get escalated to the Secretary of Defense and get that AHI status. The Secretary of Defense has to give you the AHI status.
This is going to sound crazy, but is there a particular protocol for dealing with the kind of cancer that you get from getting in contact with a UFO?
The only thing that I know of, I wouldn't call it a protocol, but I do know that there is a couple specific people, doctors who have become a part of the intelligence communities looking into this, and they've become the go-to doctors for people having biological effects, and they...
If you have a relationship with them, if you can get to them, they show up pretty quickly and do the appropriate tests and documentation of it and have the right doctors to send you to. Gary Nolan, who you interviewed, is one of those people.
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Chapter 7: What are the potential biological effects of UAP encounters?
Some of the allegedly retrieved materials from crash sites and how bizarre they are.
Yeah, from studying the isotopes. The stuff that Gary's gotten into that I find the most mind-blowing is he has real classified documentation of encounters that military and intelligence officials have had with UAP and biological effects it's caused. And some of them are...
crazy like a department of defense official who had a uap above his house and went out in his backyard and looked up at it and then the thing zapped him with the directed energy weapon and he has all of the medical signs of a directed energy attack and this is a super senior credible guy who had recently been made aware of the uap issue and then he has this experience wow yeah it's pretty wild um
So what are the effects of a direct energy weapon? What are the consequences? Cancer. That's what he's getting? Cancer. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Do you know about the Varginha Brazil story? Do you know about the James Fox documentary?
Yeah, yeah. I'm excited to see James' follow-up.
Yeah, he's got a new one. Yeah. He's got a follow-up with, I think it's the actual doctor that worked with the patient.
He was at the hospital that night and interacted with the being. Yeah, I'm excited to see that.
So the story is that this police officer, that they found this crash, and the documentary is excellent. If you haven't seen that, folks, it's called Moment of Contact. It's really good. And one of the things that's really good about it is the eyewitnesses. When the eyewitnesses return to the scene of the crash, I was like, Either that guy is an amazing actor. No, it's great.
Or he's really crying because he's remembering this insane moment in his life.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of the Roswell incident in the context of UAP technology?
Yeah. And there was eyewitnesses that saw a live one of these things. And this police officer found one that was injured, carried it, Put it in the car, physically carried it. They brought it to a hospital. That hospital told them, we don't know what to do with this. You got to take it somewhere else. They took it to a second hospital.
And the second hospital, this is the doctor allegedly that examined it. Yeah. That police officer had a horrific bacterial infection that they could not cure. And he died within weeks. It's horrible. Yeah.
It's horrible. There's so many examples of these interactions going bad. But it's also like, you know. Imagine you didn't know what a fighter jet was, and there was this giant flame coming out of the back of it, and you walk behind it, you're going to be toast. I don't think it's an intentional thing. I think we're interacting with a technology we don't understand.
And you're getting too close to it. Yeah, we're getting too close to it. Don't go walk up to it. If it's floating in the air, that means it's got an insane amount of power that's carrying this fucking 2,000-ton thing.
The other crazy story that was in... James Fox's movie, The Phenomenon, which he directed it. He's totally responsible for making that movie. I was a producer on it with him, but it's all James. James 100% made that movie. One of the coolest stories in that film was the aerial school phenomenon story at the end.
These kids in Zimbabwe at a school in like, I think it was 89 or 90, 91, something like that. Maybe it was 94, around that time. These kids, like between the ages of like 7 and 13 or something like that, they all saw this craft come down during their recess, and they all say they experienced the same thing.
They all saw these beings that looked like they were moving in slow motion around the craft. And they saw this craft take off at thousands of miles an hour after. Years later, they're all saying the same thing. The stories didn't change. They didn't try to make money off this at all. It's a wild story.
But now when you look back at that story through what guys like Hal and Eric are revealing about the warp bubble. Do you know what would make someone look like they're moving slow? If they were inside of a warp bubble next to the craft where time and space is moving differently than outside the craft. That's literally what it would do.
For the same reasons why the craft in the bubble could just be cruising along. But to us, it looks like it's going at these impossible speeds. You're in a different space-time environment. So all these things that people saw... at Ariel, in Brazil, they get explained by these reveals that are starting to come out now. And to me, that's wild, seeing how these things all connect.
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