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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2443 - Filippo Biondi

23 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 9.99 Unknown

the joe rogan experience train by day joe rogan podcast by night all day

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12.316 - 32.181 Joe Rogan

How are you, sir? Fine, thank you. Thank you very much for being here. I'm really excited to talk to you. Obviously, there's been an amazing amount of interest and controversy because of your work. We should explain to everybody right off the bat what this is about. You are the man that was at the head of this project.

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32.465 - 46.245 Joe Rogan

research that is looking at structures that are underneath the bottom of the pyramid. And incredibly controversial, very fascinating, and if it's accurate, it essentially rewrites all of human history.

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46.746 - 61.408 Filippo Biondi

Yes. Thank you for this invitation. And yes, the group is composed by Corrado Malanga, which is the head of the group, and the dean professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa.

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61.388 - 65.013 Joe Rogan

Could you explain your background, please, so people would understand?

65.033 - 69.299 Filippo Biondi

Yes. My background is this. I am a telecommunication engineering.

Chapter 2: What unusual signal patterns were discovered beneath the Giza Pyramid complex?

69.619 - 71.441 Filippo Biondi

I graduate at the university.

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71.461 - 72.703 Joe Rogan

What is that word again? Say it again.

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72.843 - 73.785 Filippo Biondi

Telecommunication engineering.

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73.805 - 82.676 Joe Rogan

Telecommunications engineer. Okay. Your English is excellent, but your Italian accent, although fabulous, sometimes it's difficult to translate.

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82.737 - 87.102 Filippo Biondi

Thank you very much, Joe. I'm sorry, yes, that I'm not mother tongue of English.

87.203 - 91.328 Joe Rogan

It's still much better than my Italian. Okay. Thank you.

91.308 - 134.106 Filippo Biondi

Yes, I graduated myself at the University of Lecce, south of Italy. Very nice university and it has the name of a famous mathematician. Italian, which is Ennio de Giorgi. Ennio de Giorgi was living in the era then John Nash was living also. And they were one against to the other. And they were both studying the 19 Hilbert problem.

134.086 - 140.494 Filippo Biondi

And Ennio de Giorgi solved this problem one week before John Nash.

141.415 - 146.621 Joe Rogan

Ah, interesting. John Nash from the famous movie A Brilliant Mind with Russell Crowe. Yes.

Chapter 3: How did Filippo Biondi get involved in this groundbreaking research?

817.37 - 835.549 Joe Rogan

What do you think, other than what I said, that it's gatekeepers of archeological information, it's people that don't want to admit that there's perhaps quite a bit bigger mystery than just the pyramids themselves. What do you think it is that is causing this resistance?

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836.035 - 859.56 Filippo Biondi

Personally, it's true. We found a lot of resistance. Yes, it's true. But personally, I don't know why. I can say something regarding to my personal opinion. Joe, it is something that maybe is too big, too huge to be disclosed like that today.

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859.58 - 883.727 Joe Rogan

I don't know why. It's confusing to people because it's essentially... paradigm-shattering because the pyramids themselves are absolutely spectacular. The Great Pyramid is 2,300,000 stones. The alignment is the perfect true north, south, east, and west. It's a really incredible accomplishment, whoever built it and when they built it. It's just...

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883.707 - 910.819 Joe Rogan

undeniably fascinating that this was done at the the very least 2500 bc probably even older than that we really don't know but that alone is spectacular but then when you add the findings that you have it just makes everybody go We don't know anything. We really don't. We know that these things exist, but their purpose has always been speculative.

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911.16 - 924.78 Joe Rogan

The speculation was that it is some sort of a tomb. But that doesn't make any sense because there's no hieroglyphs inside of it. It doesn't seem like a tomb. It doesn't look like a tomb. And I'm sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's work. Yes. Yes.

924.96 - 934.349 Joe Rogan

Which, you know, he's an engineer, and he said it appears that this thing is some sort of a mechanical thing and that it's probably designed to generate some kind of power.

934.549 - 973.339 Filippo Biondi

Yeah. Yes, in this context, I have spoke a lot with Christopher Dunn, and I like a lot his theory, and it makes sense. And... And so this discovery matches a lot with his and also to other scientists that make recast the effective purpose of the pyramid not to be tombs. Today we are sure of one thing, that the pyramids are not tombs.

973.359 - 998.453 Joe Rogan

They're not tombs. And what is truly spectacular is that if this data is accurate, those immense structures that have baffled mankind forever are just the tip of the iceberg. That's just the top. And underneath it, you have these immense structures that we have not yet fully explored, but you have data that shows that... Let's look at the images.

998.613 - 1011.89 Joe Rogan

Let's pull up some of the images so people can see what we're talking about. Because once you see it, your mind just goes, okay, what are we even talking about? What was this civilization? When did it exist?

Chapter 4: What technology was used for radar imaging of the pyramids?

1094.757 - 1117.328 Filippo Biondi

And on the vertical, we have the depth. Okay. On the top, we have the pyramid, you see. You see the pyramid on the top. Mm-hmm. And while you go down, you are observing the structures that are going down. And look, you have the spiral nature of the structures.

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1118.489 - 1128.203 Joe Rogan

Okay, this is not the clearest image that I've seen. So let me see some other images. Because this is just one, right?

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1128.503 - 1133.27 Unknown

I know. This is from his presentation, and I didn't know where to get the best image from it.

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1133.29 - 1134.051 Joe Rogan

Okay, back up one.

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1134.638 - 1146.153 Filippo Biondi

Go, okay, again. We have a lot of images here that is recasting all the research that we have done together.

1147.935 - 1168.3 Joe Rogan

So the images that are going around online that people have seen are these 3D replicate, pull up some more of those. Okay. Some of the images online are recreations of what is observed and what you believe this could look like underneath, correct?

1168.54 - 1197.788 Filippo Biondi

We have performed measurements and they are sound measurements that has been picked up from the surface of the Earth by satellites. So they are very precise and they are coherent. Coherent it means that contains a lot of information. So it is characterized to have high entropy. And so when we perform the so-called tomographic inversion, we can see what there is underneath.

1199.776 - 1210.292 Joe Rogan

Okay, so this is a recreation of what you believe it looks like. Yes. And how are you getting that from the image that's below that?

1210.458 - 1210.979 Filippo Biondi

Okay.

Chapter 5: What significant findings were made inside the Khufu Pyramid?

1932.36 - 1945.317 Joe Rogan

It's not even like someone told you something. You have extraordinary data due to fascinating modern technology that indicates that there's these paradigm shifting structures.

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1945.786 - 1955.904 Filippo Biondi

Yeah. And I tell you, Joe, I would like to go there and see what there is in person.

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1955.924 - 1956.245 Joe Rogan

Yes.

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1956.626 - 1959.13 Filippo Biondi

Because it's now time, I think.

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1959.15 - 1965.702 Joe Rogan

Is there resistance from Egypt and the people that are in control of that area, or are they fascinated by it?

1965.682 - 1974.96 Filippo Biondi

I tell you, Joe, I didn't find a lot of resistance. I found a lot of resistance in the Internet. Yes.

1975.301 - 1975.501 Joe Rogan

Of course.

1975.521 - 2002.014 Filippo Biondi

A lot of debunking, a lot of people that, no, it's not true, it's not true. a lot of people that were continuing to say, no, radar can penetrate the Earth for one kilometer. And they didn't know, or they purposely not saying this, that we are not penetrating anything because we are just grabbing the entropy that is on the surface of the Earth.

2002.214 - 2015.77 Filippo Biondi

And with that information, we are retrieving tomographies. It's something new, that I invented, but it works because we have benchmarks that demonstrates the effectiveness of the method. And this is 100%.

Chapter 6: What is the significance of the salt deposits found in the pyramids?

2093.939 - 2095.875 Filippo Biondi

For now, not, but I'm thinking to do it.

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2096.159 - 2109.577 Joe Rogan

Well, it makes sense. I mean, if it can detect this, it should be able to detect that as well. And also if it's accurate, that will also help garner support for this exploration of whatever is under there.

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2109.798 - 2122.555 Filippo Biondi

Yeah. And so we are receiving a lot of calls from companies that want to work with me. And so let's see what we can do.

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2122.535 - 2129.13 Joe Rogan

And so this is all companies that have reached out after you released the results underneath the pyramids?

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2129.371 - 2132.638 Filippo Biondi

Most of them are calling me recently.

2132.658 - 2134.382 Joe Rogan

Right. So they've heard about it.

2134.402 - 2135.385 Filippo Biondi

Relatively recently, yes.

2135.405 - 2143.819 Joe Rogan

Well, that's capitalism, right? They say, oh, we can make money off of this. Yeah, yes. That's good. That gets people interested. It gets people involved in this.

2143.839 - 2174.057 Filippo Biondi

And so we have also a philanthropic project. We are opening a foundation in Malta. We are realizing it in two weeks, and we will have a foundation in Malta. And with that foundation, we can operate also philanthropically for the Giza Plateau and other countries. ancient megalithics that are located in all the world. We have a plan to scan everything.

Chapter 7: How do the discovered structures challenge our understanding of ancient history?

2242.07 - 2256.61 Joe Rogan

Now, are you absolutely convinced that this data is accurate or have any of the criticisms of any of the people that are trying to debunk it, has any of that resonated with you and rang true? Is there any validity to any of the criticisms?

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2257.788 - 2283.728 Filippo Biondi

Radar is only precise. The nice thing that has radar is the precision. And especially from space. Because space is a very silent environment. You don't have noise, something. The platform is very stable. So when you transmit electromagnetic waves, they return back with absolute precision.

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2283.708 - 2294.083 Joe Rogan

And it's recreated over and over again in these 200-plus scans that you've done with various different satellites, correct? Not just one, so that one could have errors. So you're convinced?

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2294.424 - 2313.497 Filippo Biondi

I'm convinced, 100%, because I invented the method. Yes, I know. But I tell you that I am happy if somebody can replicate things, so... If other research groups can replicate the things that I'm showing, I am happy.

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2314.42 - 2338.926 Joe Rogan

Well, you got there first, so no matter what. I mean, if this is correct, you will go down in history as one of the most important figures in archaeology. Thank you, Joel. You're welcome, but it's just fact. If what you're saying is true, and we're just recently discovering this in the 21st century, I mean, that's absolutely mind-bending.

2340.188 - 2354.126 Filippo Biondi

Thank you for this. Yes, I am happy for being in this, but not only me, other people helping me to do my work.

2354.346 - 2355.948 Joe Rogan

Oh, sure. Of course. A lot of people.

2355.968 - 2357.55 Filippo Biondi

And in principle, my family.

2357.57 - 2383.881 Joe Rogan

Yeah. These structures and this whole area, if this turns out to be something that you don't find just at the Giza Plateau, but around other parts of Egypt. I mean, there's always been a lot of speculation as to whether or not a civilization existed in sub-Saharan Africa, an advanced civilization in the areas that are now sand. You could probably do that same sort of research there as well.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of the Great Flood on ancient Egyptian civilization?

2420.597 - 2448.575 Filippo Biondi

I live in Italy. But now I repeat this. It is time to go ahead and go on the Giza plateau. And in person, I wish to... see the effective structure, how they are, and the purpose of all the plateau, what it is.

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2448.916 - 2453.727 Joe Rogan

And is there plans to do that in person, to do some sort of an excavation?

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2454.112 - 2495.34 Filippo Biondi

Yes, I wrote a project proposal, which is research and also not research, a proposal. And it's now, we are, our intention is to submit this proposal at the Egyptian authorities. If you want, I can explain you this proposal. Please. We are involving University of Ferrara, a principal scientist, Professoressa Vaccaro, Italian professor, she's a geologist.

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2496.029 - 2536.144 Filippo Biondi

and other Italian governmental institutions that are very clever to do scans, in situ scans. So we are not using my technique, we use the state-of-the-art technique that is recognized by science today. And our intention is to concentrate the efforts on those shafts that I showed you, that we have seen, because we are...

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2536.124 - 2558.183 Filippo Biondi

99% convinced that, or sure, that those are natural entrance into the structures that are below, that are located below. Because we have the vertical structures and you saw on the tomographies you have also horizontal connections.

2558.163 - 2588.933 Filippo Biondi

so there's corridors yes you have and how large are these corridors about uh they they are tall about three meters tall okay so about nine feet tall yes yes that that will uh using these corridors you uh will arrive directly inside the the the coils that we are that we are visualizing, that we visualized before.

2589.293 - 2599.729 Joe Rogan

So there's passages and shafts and these enormous ways that they can go back and forth in between these various structures.

2599.709 - 2609.203 Filippo Biondi

The thing that we have to do now is to clean those shafts. We have to do cleaning because they are... Sand, debris.

2610.124 - 2618.676 Joe Rogan

Yeah. And is there a timeline on when you would like to start cleaning these shafts and start doing this kind of stuff?

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