Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
Headphones, no headphones? Yeah, I don't need headphones. We're going no headphones. Fuck it. What's up, dog? How are you?
Well, dude, it's been a roller coaster for me, man.
Since the last time I saw you?
Big time.
What happened?
Well, let's see here. the uh the year of 2022 last time i saw you i think it was 2023. was it that long ago i think it was man okay yeah and uh man dude i was on high the the year of 2022 like we had a our jackass movie in theater it's number one there's big like you know my profile was all you know like white hot.
The world just opened up from the pandemic and everybody had stimulus money and they were just revenge spending. Everyone wanted to go out to shows and there were no interest rates.
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Chapter 2: What challenges did Steve-O face after his success in 2022?
Money was free. It was just like a perfect storm for me to have the most successful year of my life, like more than double what my next most successful year was. And then like, I don't know, maybe I just got like uh, super, super high on that, you know?
Like, and it was just like, I was just kind of printing money, you know, like selling merch like crazy and like everything was just going so well. And, um, I don't know if maybe you become more successful and people get angry at you. But there's a point after that where I felt like, man, the internet turned on me, kind of.
I saw a lot of negative comments, people saying that all I do is promote merch. There was a bunch of different stuff. And I...
legitimately agree that's my thing is when i see a negative comment about me if i agree with it then it really bothers me you know and i got to do something about it you know i think and i've heard you say that that uh you know that that uh taking criticism constructively is like super helpful it's very helpful the problem with the internet is
It's overwhelming. It's too many voices, too many different people. That's why I would never recommend for a person like you to even read the comments. Right.
What I did was... Do you have a dick tattooed on your right eyebrow?
Is that what that is? That's exactly right. How long do you have to keep that for?
I don't have to keep it for any amount of time.
It's not a bet or anything?
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Chapter 3: How does Steve-O handle criticism from the internet?
What did you have to do?
There was... I mean, it was an exercise in promoting his Beast games on Prime, which, by the way, is the most phenomenal TV show that I've ever watched.
Yeah, my daughter was just telling me about it. She was saying it's so good. It is unbelievably good.
And I'm not being paid to say that.
He's a wizard, man. That dude's very smart. Yeah, I got to – He's like a really interesting guy because he's kind of open about what he does and he tells people how to do it. Right. You know, like how to manipulate the algorithm and how to get people to get excited and click on your link based on what the image is and the text says. Yeah. He thinks about all that shit.
Yeah. I was able to have him on my podcast like right when the thing came out.
Uh-huh.
And he was telling me that – That he was pretty close to recording a podcast with you on the top of the pyramid?
Yeah. I couldn't make it out there. I didn't have the time. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What lessons did Steve-O learn from his experiences with fame and criticism?
Not that bad.
It's not really a dangerous thing. Probably not the best way.
Yeah, I don't know what the data is. I don't think a lot of jiu-jitsu people have done double-blind placebo-controlled studies on tap or no tap, what's the best for your brain. I can't think it's good that your brain gets shut off for a few seconds. I can't think it's good.
One of the gnarliest things I've ever done in my life, if not the gnarliest— Way back in 2003, we had just had the first Jackass movie come out. While filming for the first Jackass movie, one of the bits that it was never used because it was too dark. Too fucked up? Yeah. For Jackass? For Jackass. Right.
Do you have a clip of this?
um of of what i'm sure that it exists okay but you'll appreciate this the the the legend gene labelle oh judo gene judo gene the legend real legend yeah like they had gene labelle they lined up the whole cast of jackass and he just went down the line just choked it all out yeah and like The swiftness with which he's a brutal man. I mean it was just like Super nice guy, but a brutal man, right?
I mean it was just so fast his style was known for being particularly painful Yeah, my friend Silvio Pimenta was one of his students and he was one of my first jiu-jitsu instructors And he taught me a bunch of gene stuff. I was like, oh what a mean guy Some of this stuff was so mean. It was like knuckles in your neck and like real crazy shit that Gene would do to people.
Yeah.
It was like particularly painful.
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Chapter 5: What is the impact of unsustainable debt on the economy?
But it's like even if there was unsustainable debt, you have an artificial life form that's emerging that's infinitely smarter than human beings.
What I'm saying is that... And has autonomy. The unsustainable debt, like already over a trillion dollars just paying for the interest alone. Right. Like there's all that now like...
you know other nations central banks whatever like they like the they want to de-dollarize they're not buying the united states treasuries the way they were and that's like how the united states has has been able to overspend is because they can sell the treasuries now without people selling the treasuries the only
The only buyer of the treasuries is the Fed, and they're buying the treasuries with printing money. Is that accurate, what you just said?
Other countries aren't buying our treasuries anymore?
Less so. It's becoming less. Of course, there's still the United States Treasuries is the most liquid, but less so. When it becomes more difficult for the United States to sell its treasuries, they got to increase the yield, which means bigger interest payments. So at a certain point, it's like just the paying the interest on the debt is like a crippling thing. And
by the Fed printing money the way they're printing. You can't inflate the money supply without devaluing the dollar. So inflation more and more is going to be a thing. Maybe not Weimar Germany or Zimbabwe inflation, but still, inflation is not going to go away. You just can't have the money supply increase without that being the case. And so people's purchasing power goes down. Their wages aren't
going up. So people are getting more and more squeezed with how much money they can afford to spend.
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Chapter 6: How does AI influence job loss and economic stability?
And then on top of that, AI comes and wipes out all their jobs.
Yeah. It's spooky. It's spooky because no one really knows exactly what's going to happen. Or how it's going to happen or how people will be compensated in order to keep society functional. Elon has this utopian vision of universal high income.
Yeah, UBI, universal basic income. No, no, no. Universal high income. Yeah.
No, his utopian vision is that so much money will be generated from AI that you'll be able to give people universal high income so they won't have to work. And so they'll be able to do whatever they want to do with their life. That's the ideal perspective. The problem is, obviously, that people find a lot of identity in their work.
Sure.
Especially if you went to school for it. You love it. This is the thing you've done. You've been a lawyer your whole life. You've been a doctor your whole life. You've been a this your whole life.
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Chapter 7: What is the vision of universal high income?
And then all of a sudden AI comes in and wipes that out. Like what are you going to do? Are you going to play golf all day? Right. And then you have a fixed income now because even if it's universal high income, there's no incentive for you to work harder and get more things done and make more money, which is what drives a lot of people and drives a lot of innovation. Right.
So then is all innovation left up to artificial intelligence? Is that what we're really going to do? Because that seems kind of crazy.
It's so crazy. I got to wonder, like, what keeps you going? I mean, like, you're in here doing these podcasts all the time with the UFC with, like, you know, like. You don't have to be doing this.
Everything I do is fun. I love it. I do everything I do for free. And I do all the time. I do stand-up for free all the time. I do guest spots all the time. Everybody does. Every comic does.
Oh, my God. Did I have so much fucking fun at Kill Tony last night.
Oh, it's the best show. It's the best show on earth.
He is so...
Unbelievably talented like he's the best host of any live comedy show rather of all time.
There's no he's so good at it like like did like the Amount of time when something is presented that he nails the funniest possible thing that you could react Yeah, like it's written
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Chapter 8: How do personal experiences shape views on compassion and kindness?
And he's so funny. He's so good.
And he put his name in the barrel?
Put his name in the barrel.
That's the thing, too. If people are asking me to get them on Kill Tony, I cannot. No one can. That is true. That barrel is legit. That barrel is legit. Right. You reach into that barrel. Tony grabs whatever piece of paper his hands touch, and he pulls it out, and that's how it's always been done, and that's how he's always going to do it. Because people come to him all the time.
Hey, could you get my friend on the show? He's like, I cannot do that. That is the show. Thank God. It's got to be chance. It's got to be chaos. That's part of the fun of it. And then every now and then, someone that you've never heard of comes up and does a minute, and everybody goes, fuck yeah, that was awesome. And they kill it, and all of a sudden they have a career. Right. It's great. Okay.
It's the cornerstone of stand-up, too. It really is. Because it's wild. It's like there are no rules. It's no holds barred. And you've got great comics on the panel. And it has launched careers.
For sure.
So because of that... It is so important for us having Kill Tony at the club. It's so important because it sets the tone for all these comics to know like, hey, this isn't just like some random thing of I don't know what I'm doing. How do I figure it out? How do I get seen? Like there's a pathway.
And if you can get on Kill Tony and if you can work your ass off before then and build up a real solid routine and go on there and kill it, you can have a fucking career. It's real. Yeah. And then the club has two nights of open mic nights, and there's a real development program, and the real talent coordinator, Adam Egan, who watches sets and gives you feedback.
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