Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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So, Dave, you were telling me right before the show that you are now retiring because you got an impromptu phone call and bet hundreds of millions of dollars on oil prices going down. Congratulations. It was a good bet. It just wasn't timed right. I thought you got it in on time. I thought you got it in like five minutes early. I did not. I did not.
How is there not a massive investigation into that right away?
Chapter 2: What led to Dave's controversial bet on oil prices?
Didn't someone make like $1.8 billion in like five minutes? Yeah. There's a lot of those, like trades like that that should be investigated that kind of never are. Bro. How about, what's his name, Lutnik? Yeah. How about that one? So he's working for the administration and also standing to gain huge if people can sue over the tariffs, right? Well, explain the whole thing.
Do you know the actual details of it? No, I don't really know the details. So essentially he was telling everybody that, you know, don't sweat it. The tariffs are golden. We're getting them through. There's going to be no problems. Is that what it was? But in meanwhile, he was shorting the tariffs? Yes. Yeah, so he was personally shorting them while promoting them.
Let's find out what that actually is so we don't get sued. Sure, sure, sure. I bet he's a quite litigious gentleman. Yeah, he might be. Let's see if we can find it. Is it wild that people are on the files, visit the island, and then they still work? It was unbelievable. Some people had to resign from some jobs.
Well, especially just him because he so, the way, there's something about a really confident liar. Like where they just, because I mean that interview clip where he's like, let me tell you something. I met Jeffrey Epstein that one time. He had a massage table. He said they were sex massage tables. I went right back to my wife and I said, honey, we are never hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein again.
Chapter 3: How is the investigation into massive oil trades perceived?
And that is that. Is that really the quote? I haven't seen that. I don't know if it's verbatim, but that is the exact spirit of it. Let's listen to it. Listen to it. I'm very, very close to exactly what he said.
Okay. Let me get this one again. What was this one?
Letnick interview about Epstein. And he just sounds, I mean, so like morally outraged about the idea. There's so many people that they exist in that world where you just pretend that you're a different person. You pretend you're one way. You pretend you think things differently. I've been up close with people like that. That was my takeaway from debating Chris Cuomo.
It's a weird thing to see someone just lie like that. Here it is. No, this is the one that says he's the greatest blackmailer ever.
Which quote am I trying to find?
Yeah, try to explain it to him. It was, let me see the keywords. Downplays relationship with him. That might be it.
There was something on the other thing, but I don't know what that is.
What does he do? He's a commerce secretary. He was always like a money finance guy. I think he used to work for CNBC, if I'm correct. In this administration, it's like the wolves have taken over the hen house. Yeah, they sure have. This is what draining the swamp looks like. Under fire for Epstein ties, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick defends visiting his private island.
Yeah, but this isn't the clip. The clip was from... Oh, at the top it says, Lutnick said in an interview last year he was never in the room with Epstein other than a 2005 visit to his apartment. Okay, so that's probably it. He said, you know, he met him once and was like, this guy sucks. But he specifically says that he met him, that he saw he had a massage table in his living room.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Iran war on U.S. foreign policy?
Yeah, you got really good at being conditioned. And, you know, we also saw a few leg breaks. Yeah. We saw the Anderson Silva one. We saw the Chris Weidman one. There's been a few leg breaks from guys just full power, leg kicking the thigh, and then someone just lifts up their knee a little bit and takes it on the right where the shin bone meets the kneecap is where they like to catch it.
And boy, I've seen way too many of those. I've seen a bunch in person, but because of the internet, I've seen dozens and dozens of small promotions where a guy throws that kick wrong really hard and the guy checks it and is fucking... foot just wraps around the leg, and you see it dangling there, you're like, oh no. I can recognize the thing. That injury is so recognizable.
I've seen it so many times now. I see it, I just go, oh, it's going to wrap around the calf. It's gonna flop he's gonna fall down.
I've seen it several times on internet videos and in UFC fights I've only once seen a guy continue to talk shit about the other guy after from the ground Which is the craziest shit ever dude everyone else I've seen is like crying I know in pain and Connors talking about your wife Yeah, he asked me to come and sit down with him and do a podcast I He's an animal. I mean, the dude's one of a kind.
He's one of a kind. That's for sure. He apparently made a post on his Instagram saying he's back. And if it's true, that would be awesome.
That would be awesome.
The idea is his suspension for whatever he took before is up. So, yay. What was it? Something, I think it was Douglas Murray when he wrote that article about me. There it is. Mr. Confidence Returns. to save fighting again. Call your grandma. Nanny, we did it. Watch and pay me. Fuck you, pay me. You fat Irish prick. You don't have my money. I put your brain to sleep. Who's that? What's that about?
Who's he talking about? C is in the casinos after the Mac loves yous all. I got love for yous. It's an all. It's an honor. It's light work. It's easy. For life and eternity. It's McGregor. How drunk was he when he wrote this? I do this fight game easy peasy. The sound of my shots off the head go bing in green dot laser form. Okay. Well, I really hope he is actually back. I hope it's true.
It'd be fun to see him fight a few more times. It'd be a lot of fun. It'd be a lot of fun to see him again. Greatest personality the sport's ever known. Yeah, that's right. There's no one even close. I mean, he's the most dynamic personality the sport's ever known. And he was, for a time there, just such an unbelievable fighter. I mean, he was like just, it was incredible what he was doing.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the current foreign policy?
They gave us open borders, flooding the country with people. They gave us all types of COVID tyranny based on pseudoscience. They gave us the most reckless foreign policy in American history, which was this proxy war on Russia's border. And they were pretending the president wasn't senile when he clearly was.
Then they, in the fourth quarter, threw up a cackling retard who was not democratically picked in any process. And so, sorry, it does make sense that a lot of people went, okay, we're gonna go back with this other guy. Also, there was an interesting dynamic happening in 24 where OK, this wasn't, you know, Donald Trump. They had actually tried to throw him in jail, maybe even tried to murder him.
We never really got any answers on that one. He now had Bobby Kennedy with him.
Chapter 6: How has Donald Trump's coalition changed since 2024?
He now had Tulsi Gabbard with him. He now had, you know what I mean? Even J.D. Vance, like a lot of these people who were supposedly much more non-interventionist. There was reason to hope that maybe it wouldn't end up here. But anyway, I guess my thing is that. you played such a huge role in this.
And I, to a lesser extent, played a role in standing up against a lot of that progressive insanity over the last 10 years. And I just feel like after 24, this coalition came together where Donald Trump, for the first time ever, wins the popular vote, wins every single swing state, and really more remarkably, won the youth and the culture.
Like Donald Trump went from being like the cultural pariah to being the guy like John Jones is doing the dance. And that whole coalition has been destroyed over this war. And now he's gonna hand the country right back over to these Democrats who we've been fighting so hard, all for what?
all for a war that Netanyahu wanted against a country that, dude, by the way, the justification for the 12-day war was bullshit. They weren't trying to make nuclear weapons. They were trying to negotiate. At least they got out of that unscathed relatively. Yes, well, that's right.
But then, and I want to, you know, he said some nice things about me when he was on here the other day with you, so I will say some nice things about Konstantin Kassin, who, despite our disagreements, I really like that guy a lot. But he is, I could be wrong, I could be missing someone, he's the only guy I've seen who supported the 12 day war, but is really skeptical about this.
And I've seen so many people, it's unbelievable dude, like they just, so like the 12 day war comes for the first 48 hours of it. They're like, dude, Israel's doing this on its own. All they want is for you to stay out of it.
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Chapter 7: What role does social media play in shaping public opinion?
Then like the third day, they're like, all right, they do need some help shooting down the missiles that are coming back toward them. But whatever, this is just defensive. You know what I mean? Like you don't have to get involved. Then it's like the next day, like, all right, we don't we don't have bunker busters. So we do need you to drop the bunker busters.
But then their whole like defense of the 12 day war was like, look, no Americans died. It didn't cost us a lot. It didn't turn into this disaster. And now. We're at the, okay, well, fine, all of that happened, but it's still a good thing. Constantine was the one guy I saw who was like, no, I supported that one, but I am not getting on board with this one. And I give him a lot of credit for that.
I give him a lot of credit for that. I like that guy a lot. I like him a lot. I like Francis a lot, too. I do, too. Their show, Trigonometry, is one of the best shows. Agree with them or not agree with them. They're always reasonable. They're never ideologically driven.
They have opinions that you may or may not agree with, but they're real clear about their opinions and why they believe what they believe. Yeah, that's right. And they're great guys. Yeah, genuinely good dudes. Great guys. I really liked, you know, I get in a lot of, like, the shit show, like, arguments. I find myself in them. I probably should be better than them and just not engage.
But I'm not, and I'm petty. What do you mean by shit show? Like, where it just becomes, like, an insult thing. Or, you know, I debated Alex Barron. It's kind of embarrassing in hindsight. But, like, I don't know. It gets me really angry when a guy's calling me a Holocaust denier or something like that. I think that's crazy. Well, what he was saying was kind of silly.
The way he was saying it was silly, and he was just trying to play gotcha with you, and then you called him a faggot. Yeah, it's not my finest moment. You could tell he was really shaken by that. I don't think he expected that. I kind of have a thing where, like, look, I'm really into this shit, and I nerd out on it, and I'm obsessed with all of this for whatever reason.
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Chapter 8: What are the concerns about the upcoming UFC event at the White House?
It's just, like, my calling in life. But I'm also a stand-up comic at heart, you know? And so, like, as soon as someone goes, like, oh, I want to be vicious, you're like, oh, you want to be vicious? Yeah. Because I'm pretty good at being vicious, so I could do that. And you're probably not used to hearing this type of vicious shit that comics say to each other.
But one of the things that I really appreciated about Francis and Constantine was when I went to do their show, it was just like, It was genuinely a good faith conversation. They weren't trying to like win the point or get a clip that they could go, we destroyed Dave. And then once they do that, I'm like, okay, well then I'm not trying to do that either, man. Like, let's talk about this shit.
That's always what I'd rather do.
The thing that's, I guess the thing that's really interesting about this moment is that because the kind of corporate media propaganda apparatus has been completely destroyed and because the internet and social media and podcasts are where people go now for, you know, conversations and debates and news and all this stuff, they're kind of like, they're running without a propaganda apparatus.
You know, like Israel just, Israel in the last two and a half years is down like 50 points in the polls like in terms of American approval. They've just been – it's a drastic change like I've never seen on any issue over the last few years. In our lifetimes where it's been an issue that we are dealing with the consequences of the relationship. That's right.
There's never been a time in the past where people were –
completely aware of oh there's no other reason why we'd be going into iran like most people most people don't think 100 wasn't for israel asking us to netanyahu's consistent visits to the white house multiple you can't even you can't even uh pretend otherwise i mean people but people do yes well they try to but people colman hughes just got in a debate with glenn greenwald about it
I saw that they did it. I have not had a chance to watch it. Somebody sent it to me, and it was, you know, I'm being a good boy when it comes to social media. It's been so good for my brain. It's kind of remarkable. Just staying off, you mean. Yeah. My new phone, I'm not going to put anything on it. I'm going to have my old phone and leave it at home, and I'm not going to be able to look at it.
So when I have to post things, I've got to post it on my other phone that's not going to be with me. I'm not doing that anymore. Because I just think... Eventually, ultimately, it rots your brain. But you do get some cool debates and some insight into what's going on. And I don't know what Coleman's argument was. But Glenn and Coleman were arguing about Israel's influence on this.
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